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rld 01-05-2011 02:25 AM

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whats your thoughts on mendenhall?i think he is a decent back with a combination of size and speed with some moves,but i also think that he needs to get a "set". Just this past week after catching a pass and getting into the secondary he stepped out of bounds rather than hitting the dbs.a week or so before that when a short pass was thrown his way where he would of gotten hit after catching it,he put his hands down like huh uh i aint catchin that.

TraskOutdoors 01-05-2011 02:34 AM

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You can look at it two ways. Football fans love it when offensive players are physical against defenders. Guys like Hillis take us back to the good old days of smash mouth football. But look at the injury and fumble issues that he has had this year. If a RB wants longevity in this league he must keep the blows to a minimum. Pushing the pile up the middle is one thing but taking a shot from a safety at full speed is another. Emmit Smith had the career he did by avoiding major contact and going out of bounds when he could.

I think Mendy has the skills but he still has some bugs to work out. The main thing that I see with him is his indecisions in the backfield. Too many times he seems to dance a little too much back there instead of hitting the hole and going. Getting "only" 1 or 2 yards is still better than losing 1 or 2.

All in all he is a good back with a good combination of size and speed. He's no Peterson but then again who is?

Washpa Randy 01-05-2011 03:07 AM

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I remember watching Franco run out of bounds every chance he got instead of taking on a defender. Seemed to work out pretty well for his longevity. Heck, helped get him all the way to the hall of fame. Not saying Mendenhall is goingo to the HOF. But sometimes it is better to be smart than tough.

steelerfan58 01-05-2011 12:15 PM

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Situational football. On the play RLD is referencing, it was a cornerback, so yes, he should have run over him like a tractor trailer going over a soggy ice cream cone. That said, and I do love me some fullback, in the NFL, you won't run people over all the time, at least for very long. Earl Campbell comes to mind. On the Suggs play in the Ravens game, he actually played that one smart. It was a loser play of he catches it, so he left it go.
In Mendenhalls case, Trask is dead on. When it's an inside run, you go to the hole. If it isn't there, you put your head down and push the pile for a couple yards. Bouncing it outside works about 40-50% of the time. But the problem is that when it doesn't work, you're in 2nd and 12, or 3rd and 9. That really limits what you can do on offense. IMO, great backs aren't the ones who break 80 yarders and have 120 yards on 25 carries that day. Great backs are the guys who turn 3 yard losses into 2 yard gains. Parker had a higher YPC than Bettis. I doubt that anyone would take Parker over Jerome though. We have to keep in mind that he isn't Bettis. Jerome is going to the HOF this year on the first ballot for a reason. Only 63 men ever have been elected on their first try since 1970, of which 9 were running backs. Guys like that happen 1 time in a generation. But even with Jerome, it wasn't only power. He was smart, and had feet comparable to Barry Sanders. He knew how to avoid direct contact. He also had unreal power if need be(ask Urlacher about it https://www.huntingpa.com/forums/i...lies/smile.gif ). Remember, Bettis also played for OC's who put a real value on the running game, who did not view it as a necessary evil to be used solely to keep defenses off balance and grind out clock, if that. Jerome had Tim Lester, Jon Witman and Dan Kreider as blocking backs, because that's what teams who want to run the ball effectively do. Mendenhall doesn't have the power Jerome did. He's also stuck playing for a guy that only wants to have him carry it 15 times per game, and uses a tight end out of position as a fullback. I'd like to see what he could do if Kreider was in front of him, slapping Ray Lewis around 35 times a game. It seems that when they do get Mendenhall a good blocker in front of him, he does very well. They've been VERY successful at the goal line with Bronko Lagursky being a lead blocker.

steelhead125 01-05-2011 12:26 PM

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First thing that came to mind was Franco when I saw that play. The second thing was he is no Franco and he never will be. I think he will improve though.

steelerfan58 01-05-2011 12:34 PM

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One thing about it---if you put Franco or the Bus, or Jim Brown for that matter, behind the collection of misplaced furniture movers we call an offensive line(Pouncey aside), how would they do? Conversely, if you put Mendenhall behind the Steeler line from the 70's, how would he do? He certainly would have gotten more opportunities to run the ball under a different Steeler coach. He doesn't get a chance to get 30-35 carries and wear down opposing defenses, due to our OC's impatience with the running game. Perhaps that is why he's bouncing it outside a lot. He knows that 2-3 yard runs will get him benched. Our OC thinks every play should be 10 yards, but getting sacked in the process is OK. In fairness to Arians(can't believe I said that https://www.huntingpa.com/forums/i...ilies/puke.gif ), we don't know if Mendenhall is tough enough to handle 30-40 carries every game, either.

PossumBackstrap 01-05-2011 01:28 PM

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Speaking of Pouncey, his twin brother looked awfully good in the Outback Bowl... Just sayin.

Q2XL12 01-05-2011 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by steelerfan58
He certainly would have gotten more opportunities to run the ball under a different Steeler coach.

Mendenhall had 324 carries this year, second most in the league and 3 behind Arian Foster's 327. Sounds like ample oppurtunity to me.

Q2XL12 01-05-2011 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PossumBackstrap
Speaking of Pouncey, his twin brother looked awfully good in the Outback Bowl... Just sayin.

Yes he did...that whole broadcast was a Mike Pouncey high light reel!

Buckethead 01-05-2011 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PossumBackstrap
Speaking of Pouncey, his twin brother looked awfully good in the Outback Bowl... Just sayin.

Yes he did...that whole broadcast was a Mike Pouncey high light reel!

The sad thing is Mike Pouncey is a far better guard than center if you can believe that! He stayed in school one more year to move into his brother's position of center. He wants to show the NFL he's a well rounded lineman and bump up his standing in the draft. I was hoping he would slip enough for Pittsburgh to get a crack at him. Could you imagine those two side by side again! https://www.huntingpa.com/forums/i...lies/music.gif


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