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Pine Creek canoe trip info needed

Thinking about doing a solo 2 or 3 night canoe trip down Pine Creek.
I imagine I'd put in at Ansonia but not sure where I'd take out.....depends on camping areas, shuttle, etc.
I would appreciate any input on camping along the creek, primitive camping, no campgrounds please. Also any info on outfitters who run shuttles would be great.

Also feel free to post and pictures from the creek if you've paddled there.

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Re: Pine Creek canoe trip info needed

Planning to do my first weekend kayak trip in May with a large group in that same area, 38 miles of stream. I am going to send them your questions and see if any can help you out. Hopefully I will have info for you in a day or two

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Re: Pine Creek canoe trip info needed

Not a bad trip....pretty scenic....primitive campground about 1/2 between Ansonia and Blackwell. Parking is limited at Blackwell but there is another takeout about a 1/2 mile downstream.

I'd suggest keeping an eye on water levels and would suggest 3 ft plus.
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/pa/nwis/uv?cb_...ite_no=01548500

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Re: Pine Creek canoe trip info needed

Pine Creek Outfitters does shuttle service.
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Tracker, check your FB pm's when you can, sending you info

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Re: Pine Creek canoe trip info needed

We always start at Ansonia the first day and paddled to Cedar Run- Peticote Junction campground. The second day Cedar Run to Waterville. Where my son used to live. The 3rd day Waterville to Jersey Shore on the Susquehanna river.
About 4 miles below Waterville is primitive camping. Just above where Camp Kline was. About the last launch on Pine Creek is the Torbet launch...nothing fancy.
As mentioned 3' of water is nice water and is good for coming through the canyon.
There used to be a couple shuttles but have since went out of business.
Could try this place for shuttle. They rent kayaks
http://www.bonnersports.com/

Also I know you said no campgrounds but that was our routine. It was a tent site-no electric....
Any questions ask away!! I can also give you approximate paddle times if you want an idea hour long a certain distance will take.

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Pine Creek Outfitters does shuttle service.
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Re: Pine Creek canoe trip info needed

Here is map showing where things are- rails map
Forgot camping @ Black walnut

http://www.visittiogapa.com/railtrailmap.pdf

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Re: Pine Creek canoe trip info needed

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Pine creek is an excellent paddle. I've paddled from above Ansonia to black well several times. Camped, and day tripped it. Putting in at Marsh Creek & paddling to black well is about a 7 - 8 hour trip depending on water levels. I've determined the bare minimum to run this is 1.8' on the cedar run gauge. Below that you're dragging your boat in many locations. Last time I paddled pine I paddled my grumman solo @ 1.85. Aluminum boats are sticky when you smack a submerged rock, unlike a Royalex or PE boat. I was able to get down clean with out any issues. If you can read the water, you'll have no problem padding at 1.8'.

The max I paddled was ~5-6'. It was a ride & I paddled solo with my gear for an over night trip in my Mad River ME (White water boat). I'd caution anyone paddling it at this level, if you go for a swim, it will be a long cold swim & could have negative results.

I'd agree with doog - 3' is a nice level.

You need a permit to camp in the canyon (Free). Below Tiadaghton there are many primitive camping spots. It only takes a few hour to get to Tiadaghton, it seems to always be a party spot & I prefer to get through that area as quick as possible to get away from the boom boxes & beer...speaking of beer, I don't think I've ever paddled pine and not found a few cold ones in the water thanks to some poorly packed rafting patrons .

Pine Creek outfitters will run your shuttle for about 20 bucks or something reasonable. You can also launch at their business.

Below Rattle snake rock is where I typically take out. This is a PA Fish & boat take out (as is marsh creek put in?), so you'll need a launch permit or take the risk of meeting the fishy police & ending up with a fine for not having one.

Enjoy your trip, it's well worth it.
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Re: Pine Creek canoe trip info needed

Thanks for all the info and help.

I've been checking links and looking at some paddling PA books I have. There is pretty much info out there on Ansonia to Blackwell.
I was hoping on making this a longer trip. I was thinking from Ansonia down to Torbert, that's roughly 53 miles.
Does anyone have any info on primitive camping once you pass Blackwell?
Is there State Forest land along the creek down there or just public campgrounds?

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