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PGC EMPLOYEE DOUBLE DIPPING?
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post #2 of 37 (permalink) Old 08-18-2013, 06:27 PM Thread Starter
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Great piece of investigative journalism!
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post #3 of 37 (permalink) Old 08-18-2013, 07:44 PM
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Oh wow a crooked pgc employee , who would have ever believed it possible.

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Oh wow a crooked pgc employee , who would have ever believed it possible.
I just read the article. Where does it say he did anything "crooked"? Doesn't appear that he broke any laws of any kind.

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With the attention given the complaints, if there was any legitimacy to the charges he would be gone or so charged. He hasn't been.

Charges are one thing - validity of the charges another.

Point blank, there is not one agency in Pennsylvania that would not hire him to handle land and mineral issues in a heartbeat. Beyond the gas issues he is responsible for to the GC, he has been the catalyst for many other land issues and additions.

It is also very true that the no surface agreements the GC has with drillers runs back to Capouillez. As does the GC receiving the highest royalty rates of any government agency in the state. Nearly double what other agencies get.

He delivers consistently for the GC and sportsmen be it gas or mineral issues, land deals and land swaps and or donations.

This is an old story having begun some four or five years ago. My guess is the court case provided new fodder.

In the end, my guess is he will leave the GC and sportsmen will be for the worse of it.

Until then, the state will continue to investigate charges and take any required legal action if warranted. So far, it appears that has not been required.

Is your position a short term gain - or a long term loss? Separate the issues.
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Do you thnk it may be that he helps landowners get the most they can for drilling companies who resent that fact?




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Ok folks,let's keep this thread civil or timeouts WILL be awarded. Thank you.
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With the attention given the complaints, if there was any legitimacy to the charges he would be gone or so charged. He hasn't been.

Charges are one thing - validity of the charges another.

Point blank, there is not one agency in Pennsylvania that would not hire him to handle land and mineral issues in a heartbeat. Beyond the gas issues he is responsible for to the GC, he has been the catalyst for many other land issues and additions.

It is also very true that the no surface agreements the GC has with drillers runs back to Capouillez. As does the GC receiving the highest royalty rates of any government agency in the state. Nearly double what other agencies get.

He delivers consistently for the GC and sportsmen be it gas or mineral issues, land deals and land swaps and or donations.

This is an old story having begun some four or five years ago. My guess is the court case provided new fodder.

In the end, my guess is he will leave the GC and sportsmen will be for the worse of it.

Until then, the state will continue to investigate charges and take any required legal action if warranted. So far, it appears that has not been required.
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I guess I guess I see it from the standpoint of the PGC having complete autonomy. Most government institutions would never allow something like this to be happening.
Could someone with the same title working for DCNR be allowed to do what this guy is doing? Absolutely not!
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End of the day there are the ethics laws and commission of the state. Regardless of the agency or state office / activity - these laws apply. From the article and elsewhere before, as this is not a new issue, no one has found any ethics violation.

It is what it is. Personally, I would rather it not be occurring either. It does have the look of impropriety. however, that said, the law is the law. If the IG and or the Ethics Commission have no issues - all we have left is subjective and personal opinion.

Is your position a short term gain - or a long term loss? Separate the issues.
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