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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 10-11-2012, 08:55 AM Thread Starter
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PA can afford drilling but not to save Mt Springs

The headwaters of Bowmans Creek, and 100 year old dam are no longer. Stiff news along with new plans to drill in the area of the Old Loggers Path in the Loyalsock State Forest, state forest land, who owns it, the people, when did we agree to drilling in the pristine wilderness, and why can't the money go to repairing Mt Springs dam.

100 years don't matter

PA got the last of my tax money, forever. Do yourself a favor and move out of this condemed craphole of a state
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who owns it, the people,
...but I'll bet the people don't own the gas rights.

Shut Up and Drill
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Re: PA can afford drilling but not to save Mt Springs

Its a shame.....but expect more of the same especially now!

http://www.ydr.com/state/ci_21734825...ce=most_viewed


http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/...ficial-217846/


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Re: PA can afford drilling but not to save Mt Springs

PA can supposedly afford these big bike paths being built all over college towns like state college
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Re: PA can afford drilling but not to save Mt Spri

I have mixed feelings about it. It is a beautiful lake. I was just there about a month ago.

But, I'm a trout fisherman, and the lake very likely warms the water in Bowmans Creek in the summer. The stream holds some wild trout, in addition to the hatchery trout that are stocked.

It would probably be a better trout stream if it didn't have that warming in the upper reaches.

(BTW, this topic is completely unrelated to natural gas issues.)
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Re: PA can afford drilling but not to save Mt Spri

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But, I'm a trout fisherman, and the lake very likely warms the water in Bowmans Creek in the summer. The stream holds some wild trout, in addition to the hatchery trout that are stocked.
The fact that it still holds some wild trout after the lake was in place for 100 years should suggest that the lake had no ill effects on water quality. It may even have improved water quality by the removal of silt from the creek.

I would be more concerned with the wind farm project and the silt / runoff it has and will cause in both Bowmans and Mahopany creeks. The small feeder creeks hold more native trout than the main streams ever will.

I know the OP is a big time fisherman and his thing is out of the way not often fished lakes and ponds. I enjoy some of the same. However the loss of this lake will impact other wildlife far more than the few pan fish and "snakes" ( now he knows who I am ) that call it home. The ducks and geese that use this as a nesting area will have to move. I can see swimming at lake Jean shut down from time to time in the next few years once all the geese move across the ridge. On the plus side it should make more room for the snowshoes. Waugh!

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I'm at a loss Jim, when you say OP were you referring to me or troutbert who you quoted?
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Me to.....are you saying we shouldnt pursue our ability for energy independance?

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You. Waugh!

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Re: PA can afford drilling but not to save Mt Spri

This thread should not be in the PA Gas Lease Forum. It has nothing at all to do with gas issues.

It's about the planned drawing down of Mountain Springs Lake and removing the dam. So, the fishing forum is probably the best location.
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