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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 07-08-2011, 01:01 PM Thread Starter
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For those with an interest in learning about the science involved with fracking wells http://jlcny.org/site/attachments/articl...%20Engelder.pdf

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What? A little science?

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just a tad...

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I remember when they were telling us how safe off shore drilling was.
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One of the main problems is the bad cement jobs being done around the well head, I think currently they only let them set for less than 24 hours when we know cement takes much longer to dry, esocially when it's several feet deep....a small fix that needs to be addressed and would eliminate some of the methane leaks such as they outside Wysox where I wouldn't light a match within a few hundred feet of a certain wellhead that's spewing methane like Old Faithful....

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Good info. Clearly hits on the issues that need improvement, what the regulatory role should be, and debunks the whole frac fluid in the water table myth.

Processes can always be improved but some people seem to hope for paralysis through analysis. Just because sometimes bad things happen; it doesnít make the entire process or industry inherently unsafe. Planes, trains, and automobiles all crash; but we donít stop using them. We also donít make ridiculously restrictive laws like 10 MPH speed limits on the interstate.

Clarify the problems and move on without over on understating the situation.

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Good info. Clearly hits on the issues that need improvement, what the regulatory role should be, and debunks the whole frac fluid in the water table myth.

Processes can always be improved but some people seem to hope for paralysis through analysis. Just because sometimes bad things happen; it doesnít make the entire process or industry inherently unsafe. Planes, trains, and automobiles all crash; but we donít stop using them. We also donít make ridiculously restrictive laws like 10 MPH speed limits on the interstate.

Clarify the problems and move on without over on understating the situation.

It doesn't debunk or prove anything. Those who stand to profit off this will come up with any kind of "science" they want in order to protect their cash cow.
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So now the claim is that NG drillers are also exempt from the laws of physics?

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So now the claim is that NG drillers are also exempt from the laws of physics?
I don't care who you are, that right there is funny!

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