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Turkey holding 50 US nuclear bombs 'hostage' at air base, report says

Turkey holding 50 US nuclear bombs 'hostage' at air base, report says

https://www.foxnews.com/world/turkey...-hostage-syria
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The decision to flip on the Kurds and pull out our special operators will have many, many repercussions.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...andoned-syria/
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when we leave, all equipment should come back with us and all bases should be leveled. if we leave the bases, they should be rigged so we can listen in or blow them up if we choose to do so. LEAVE NOTHING BEHIND
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The decision to flip on the Kurds and pull out our special operators will have many, many repercussions.
A similar decision by BoBo fueled the beginning of ISIS. Not good.
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when we leave, all equipment should come back with us and all bases should be leveled. if we leave the bases, they should be rigged so we can listen in or blow them up if we choose to do so. LEAVE NOTHING BEHIND
If I am not mistaken Incirlik is still an active US / NATO base.
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and now ISIS and others know where there are 50 nuclear bombs.
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I love all the armchair generals who act as if they know all the ins and outs of what is going on around the world on any given day.

Did any of you sit in on an intelligence briefing? Are you experts on the Turks and Kurds relationship over the years? Do you know all the different factions of Kurds spread though the Middle East?

Some of the same people who have been crowing for years that we need to pull all our troops home from around the world and not spend any more blood and treasure fighting someone else’s wars are now screaming about this.

How much blood and treasure has Europe spent on fighting ISIS? We spend untold amounts to “help” the Kurds, they secure more land than they ever had before, including oil fields worth 100s of millions, but suddenly we’re the bad guys...

Remember during the lead up and the beginning of the Iraq War, everyone was screaming about how we shouldn’t be engaged in nation building and that even know Saddam was kind of a bad guy, we had no business going in there to remove him? Sean Penn even went to Baghdad to show how nice it was and how everyone loved Saddam?

Then we had Mubarak in Egypt and Obama said he had to go. So everyone suddenly agrees that he had to go and supported all efforts to remove him. Huh, what was that about not getting involved in nation building and poking our noses in someone else’s business???

Then Momar had to go. He was a brutal dictator who just had to go. Hmmm...

Now we are on to Assad....

Which is it? Do we not get involved in other people’s business or do we pick and choose?
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BB we reap the seeds we sow. We need to consider what happens after we make the first bad decision and then the subsequent decisions. Usually we don't.
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You're absolutely right Bugle, we don't have the first clue, other than the news clips we have read for the last twenty years outlining the sacrifices of the Kurds and the importance of our alliance with them. Basic students of recent history know the Kurds are important allies. But, I'll accept your premise. So, who does KNOW? Well, all the Chiefs of Staff know, everyone in the intelligence community knows, active duty special operators and their commanders know, politicians sitting on the intelligence committees and everyone at the Pentagon knows. They all know the importance of the Kurdish alliance in the middle east. They all know the error of this decision and have spoken out about it. They all know the ineptness of this president as it pertains to foreign policy.

Our presence with special operators in areas of importance like Syria is far from the full on invasion of Iraq which you equate it to. I'll go and look for all your posts about how we should move on from a fossil fuel based economy. Will I find those? Because until we do that, the Middle East matters. Your arm chair attempt at apologizing for the Donald makes sense, it would make a bunch more sense if you could spin the 1800 troops we are sending to Saudi Arabia? How does that work out with the point you are making?? We've spent too much "blood and treasure" in the ME so let's pull troops out leaving our biggest allies high and dry, cede land to the Russian backed Syrian regime and facilitate a massacre, oh wait, but let's send some more to Saudi while we're at it??

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...31d_story.html


What is Russia's end game here? Now we have Russian troops butted up to Turkish ones in Northern Syria. I wonder if Russia will make a mistake and attack Turkish forces thus putting the US in the position of honoring our NATO agreements? Or, will they just combine with the Turks to eradicate the Kurds? Or, maybe Putin, Assad and Erdogan will all just do the right thing. One can hope.
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I just read that by pulling back the 50 or so SF troops, allowing Turkey to advance as the whole world knew they would, then threatening sanctions on Turkey, has forced Erdogan to call Trump to set up an emergency conference. This is something that the Turks have been refusing to do, and the reason Pence and the National Security Adviser are now on their way to Turkey to mediate negotiations.

Maybe Trump and his people had intelligence info to develop this strategy?
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