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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 08-07-2012, 05:07 PM Thread Starter
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Barry Bonds says.....

.....he belongs in the Hall of Fame.

I agree.

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Look he did take performance enhancing drugs, I have no doubt about that but it takes more than muscles to hit a home run.

Muscles help but you still need excellent hand eye coordination and the right bat speed to hit a 98 mph fastball.

A .298 career average is impressive. Out of his 2935 career hits only 762 were home runs so that means he still had 2173 singles, doubles, and triples.

Add in 514 career stolen bases and he is a Hall of Famer.

Will the voters see it that way, I doubt it! Ron Cook of the PG and The Fan has already said he will never vote for someone linked to PED. For me though it is about the entire body of work (no pun intended) so I say put him in, put them all in. If they get an asterisk so be it but there are far more aspects to baseball then home runs and there are far more elements to the home run then simply muscle.

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post #2 of 33 (permalink) Old 08-07-2012, 05:25 PM
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I disagree. He would't have has the games or records he had if not for using stregnth enhancing drugs. His actions were cheating. Pete Rose was banned from baseball for betting on games, not games his own team was playing mind you but other games. Rose's statistics were the result of his hard work, not drugs. Pete isn't in the hall of fame and Bonds shouldn't be either.




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Re: Barry Bonds says.....

I agree with Backwoods. How many guys are already in the hall that took PED's? We'll never know. But Bonds was the best in an era full of PED users.

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im sorry but where is the proof that he took drugs, maybe i missed it
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Re: Barry Bonds says.....

Bonds and Rose should both be in but with explanations of the things they did wrong too.

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Re: Barry Bonds says.....

I agree that Rose earned it, he is the greatest hitter to play the game. I don't know if we will ever see someone with that many hits ever again.

Rose should be in the HoF.

Like Bonds though, Rose did wrong and both should have a denotation stating so. It is hard to argue on the field stats of both though. PEDs or no PEDs.

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im sorry but where is the proof that he took drugs, maybe i missed it
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Pete Rose <span style="font-weight: bold">voluntarily</span> accepted a lifetime suspension from baseball.

I could see the explanation for Rose on his plaque now....

Pete Rose is in the Hall of Fame but he gambled a minimum of $10,000 per day on MLB games when he was the <span style="font-weight: bold">Manager</span> of the Cincinnati Reds.

He bet on at least 50 MLB games.

He gambled from the dugout.

When caught he denied it......for 15 years. Then he admitted it when he wanted to profit from a book he wrote.

His most redeeming quality is his arrogance.

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I'm in a gym every day and haven't missed more than a handful of days in the past 20 years.I see alot of young guys that start taking steroids.I can name at least a dozen offhand right now.It's absolutely incredible how fast these guys gain strength and size.It's cheating pain and simple.
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im sorry but where is the proof that he took drugs, maybe i missed it
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I don't know. The Grinch's heart grew three sizes, in one day.
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