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Thoughts on Sports Before Fall or Winter

What do you all think about the possibilities and ramifications about pro sports finishing their seasons (NBA, NHL, and toss in MLS) or even having a season (MLB and NFL)?

I assume that more/better tests are coming, but I don't assume some radical gae changer, like a 5 minute test you can do yourself at home.

I think the sports that paused will have a very hard time getting it restarted. In the next few months the testing needs to focus on where it is needed the most for medical reasons. Patients, health care workers, first responders, caregivers, service workers.

Cant justify daily testing the Lakers and the Bucks, or the Pens and the Golden Knights, as they play in the Stanley Cup finals or NBA finals. Plus all the team personnel and refs. Not by June.

Further out, I could see some kind of condensed baseball season. It would have to be like spring training, the Grapefruit and the Cactus leagues. A short season to set the seedings and then a college style tournament. A triple elimination set of opening rounds, get it down four teams in each leage then best-of-three until the finals, best of five.

NFL has the best chance. The game is perfect for TV so stadium crowds and gate reciepts probably the least important out of all the sports. The NFL also has the resources to just start its own testing lab. They could justify testing the people needed to put on the games and excess capacity is given to the system.

Sports are important for the people's sense of normalcy. You might not watch any sports, but recognize many do. For a few hours, fans can forget the other stuff.

Given the timelines, I think the NFL has the best shot at it.

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I agree the NFL has the best chance by far. They may get a late start to preseason training and camp and not get in all 17 games, but think they have a chance of getting a season in. Maybe even allowing spectators for part, if not all of the season.

A lot of money to be made on any type of NBA action. I'm sure they will do their best to have some sort of finish to their season, but that may be harder to pull off. Maybe a late summer tourney and championship game if at all feasible. But I must say, I have my doubts the time frame will allow it.

I could see MLB getting an abbreviated season in this year with maybe a third of the number of games and no spectators.

MLS and NHL, knowing very little of either, I have no idea.....

If these leagues are unable to pull off live games, look for some to field something similar to a version of iRacing. Especially the NFL. They will want to keep fan interest, and it appears people will watch video game based play to get their sports fix. Vegas taking action on iSports....never thought I'd live to see the day.....
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unfortunately racing sims are the only ones that will pull this off.
maybe golf??

basically any team type game is out
nobody will watch 1 guy smashing an xbox controller mimicking a whole team vs. 1 other guy
but they will watch a group

its working for iracing for 2 reasons

ALL the real life stars can participate in 1 event ,like normal.
and visually there is little change . if you seen a Irace it looks like a real race ,but in standard definition.
it also helps that racing has a 20yr jumpstart with its software backbone
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Sports are important for the people's sense of normalcy. You might not watch any sports, but recognize many do. For a few hours, fans can forget the other stuff.
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I agree with that. I don't watch sports. I can't imagine myself wasting a minute of my life watching over payed grown men play a game.

But that's just me. I know its a big part of some peoples lives and it matters to them and its also a part of our culture here. So its a big deal and it would do people a lot of good to see base ball start like normal. Any thing that can entertain people cooped up at home and give them something to talk about would be a great thing.
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I don’t see how the NHL or NBA will be able to complete their season. I don’t watch the NBA, MLS, or racing, but unless they play in empty arenas nothing will happen.

Baseball might have a chance but they would likely have to play with a fraction of the fans. The NFL does have the best chance.

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I don't think sports will ever be the same. Gate revenues are destroyed for at least the next two years and broadcast fees are about to be wrecked also. I know personally I am a big fan of a couple local teams and a casual watcher of pretty much whatever is on at a decent threshold of athleticism. With this whole CV-CF I cancelled cable the day the NHL stopped. I had absolutely no reason to pay for cable with the other garbage on there besides live sports. I'll probably never go back. So the big sports world is either going to have to adapt to people like me or be left behind. I miss it but I don't $100 a month miss it, that's for sure. It's kind of a shame in a time like this, but there is so much money and intelligence in sports, as a whole it will be fine.

As far as scheduling this season...who really cares. Anything they try to do will be hokey as all get out. They might as well preserve their sanctity and not bother. I suspect the NHL will realize that and call it pretty soon. They rely most of the big 4 on gate revenue. The NBA is probably most prone to do stupid TV stunts...yeah that's status quo for them. A shame because it's possible the world's best athletes play in that league and it's a joke. The NFL is really too far out to tell, but they wield the most power and that will probably help their cause. MLB is really stuck between a rock and a hard place with the timing of their seasons. They might lose 2 because of this ordeal.

Locally...we'll definitely see contraction and teams moving as a fallout of all this. We may be thanking Richardhead Nutting for being such a pennypincher before this is all over. Cash is king right now and he seems to be quite the tightwad.

Youth sports?!!! WTH? I don't even know what to think? To imagine seniors losing their seasons. Parents already stretched thin, what are they going to do going forward? At the same time there is so much very, very broken with youth sports today. Maybe this fixes some of that and gets kids back to playing neighborhood games and kills this stupid travel sports craze. Probably not, may make it worse. But one can hope.

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unfortunately racing sims are the only ones that will pull this off.
maybe golf??

basically any team type game is out
nobody will watch 1 guy smashing an xbox controller mimicking a whole team vs. 1 other guy
but they will watch a group

its working for iracing for 2 reasons

ALL the real life stars can participate in 1 event ,like normal.
and visually there is little change . if you seen a Irace it looks like a real race ,but in standard definition.
it also helps that racing has a 20yr jumpstart with its software backbone
You'd be surprise what people will watch. Video gaming is actually a sport of its own, with large venues like Madison Square Garden selling out video gaming championships. People sit there watching people playing video games.

You put NFL players on TV playing a video version of football, that looks real (and todays game do) and people will watch. Most of the players being avid gamers themselves, there would be no shortage of players willing to participate.

And not to forget a principal attraction of the NFL....gambling. If Vegas doesn't take action on the games, the local bookies will. They're hurting too, and would get in on the action. If a guy has cabbage on the game, he will be watching, rest assured.
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them people going to video game matches aren't the same audience
and watching 2 guys players or not ,playing madden isn't going to cut it .
the NFL NHL NBA and MLB are team games,its the only way they will function.
if they could be simulated in any way realistically in the virtual would they would have,,20 yrs ago

NASCAR is an outlier ,data can be captured, measurements can taken ,they been doing it for decades.
the simulators are so good that real teams use sims to prep for real races.
they are not video "games"...

back in 2001 i put some wheel time in on an early version of what they use now
had a pretty good set up , force feed back wheel and pedals,,
3 27" monitor display spread ,wired into my 150W stereo system
I could even run the sim in 3D.
how realistic can they be?
well I quit playing after I "drove thru" a massive wreck on I95 on my way to the yellow...
I was doing 106mph when I got clear and looked down at my speed...
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I agree with that. I don't watch sports. I can't imagine myself wasting a minute of my life watching over payed grown men play a game.

But that's just me. I know its a big part of some peoples lives and it matters to them and its also a part of our culture here. So its a big deal and it would do people a lot of good to see base ball start like normal. Any thing that can entertain people cooped up at home and give them something to talk about would be a great thing.
Same with me BD....donít watch any sports. Actually, the CV 19 virus has had little impact on my day to day life. Iím retired, I donít shop, wife likes to cook at home, donít go to taverns, casinos, or clubs. I spend most of my time alone, in the woods, on the boat, in the garden, in the beeyard, or at camp. Other than the grandkids not hanging out at the house 3 days a week, my life is unchanged.
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I actually had to log in to respond to this.

Elk, your assertion that there is something very, very wrong with youth sports today is a perfectly placed shot. Travel sports operations prey on austerity issues in local communities as well as the psychological needs of both the parents and children. Perhaps you are right and all of this will be a catalyst for a healthy change but I'm somewhat more circumspect. "Travel" sports are a huge industry anymore.

The other thing that the major pro sports leagues (including the NCAA) is the daunting prospect of having to refund money....no corporation wants to do that!

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