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Eagles 2018

I hope it's not too early to start this thread but here it goes........


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Bad news, NFL — Eagles will be very good for a looooong time

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NBC Sports Philadelphia•Feb 6, 2018, 2:29 PM

The team that just won it all will return largely intact in 2018. And 2019. And to a great extent in 2020. The Eagles are built for the long haul. By Reuben Frank


More Bad news, NFL. They're not going away.

The Eagles are here for the long haul, and the rest of the NFC East and the NFC and the entire league is going to have to reckon with this team for the foreseeable future.

The team that just won Super Bowl LII will return largely intact in 2018. And 2019. And to a great extent, 2020 as well.

You never know exactly what the future holds, but this team is built for the long haul.

They will probably lose Patrick Robinson this offseason, but the list of potential free agents is small. You'd love to have Trey Burton back, but that may be financially impossible. Nigel Bradham is a free agent and could walk.

But every offensive starter with the exception of part-time starting running back LeGarrette Blount is signed through next year and nine of them are signed through 2019. There will be decisions to make at running back with Blount and Jay Ajayi, who is up after next year, but Corey Clement, who looks like a budding star, isn't going anywhere until 2021 at the earliest.

The entire starting defensive line is intact through next year, with only Brandon Graham unsigned for 2019. Bradham is the only defensive starter unsigned in 2018 and only Graham, Jordan Hicks and Ronald Darby are unsigned in 2019.

Let's jump into the future.

The Eagles have these guys under contract for 2020: Alshon Jeffery, Mack Hollins, Zach Ertz, Lane Johnson, Brandon Brooks, Jason Kelce, Fletcher Cox, Vinny Curry, Timmy Jernigan, Derek Barnett, Malcolm Jenkins, Rodney McLeod, Sidney Jones and Rasul Douglas.

That's 2020. Three years from now!

Carson Wentz is under contract only through 2019, but the Eagles will take care of that at some point long before he hits free agency.

Look at the NFC East. Eli Manning is quarterbacking the Giants. He's 37 and hasn't won a playoff game since 2011. Alex Smith is quarterbacking the Redskins. He's 33 and has won one playoff game since 2012 and it was over a mediocre Texans team and he didn't even play that well. Dak Prescott is quarterbacking the Cowboys and he's never won a playoff game, and his decline from 2016 to 2017 certainly has to have the Cowboys wondering exactly what his future looks like.

Heck, the Eagles may have the top two quarterbacks in the division. And in Wentz and Nick Foles, they have two of the best quarterbacks in the NFL in their 20s. What happens there remains to be seen, but at worst they have an elite quarterback to move forward with and another quarterback who has tremendous value as well.

More than anything, Jeff Lurie and Doug Pederson have turned this into an incredibly attractive destination. Talented players are going to want to come here and be part of this special thing they've built, and the Eagles' front office can be selective in who it signs.

When the Eagles do lose valuable players, they're in position to replace them. Joe Douglas has really solidified the talent evaluation aspect of the front office. His decision to bring Super Bowl winners into this locker room - Torrey Smith, Corey Graham, Chris Long, Blount - really made a difference not only helping the young guys prepare for Super Bowl week but also really helping forge the unselfish, team-first mentality that Pederson was building.

"In my mind, there's a huge window here," Smith said. "The team's still building. We lost a lot of players (to injury) and still won the Super Bowl. They're going to come back healthy, most of the guys who were part of this are coming back, and they're going to keep adding good players, too. This thing can keep on rolling."

Really, everything is in place.

An owner willing to spend, a scouting staff with an extraordinary knack for finding players that fit in both on the field and off, a general manager who's a master at juggling salary cap and contracts, a coach who's a brilliant motivator and play caller, a staff of first-rate teachers and a stable of talented players who want to stay here.

Thinking back to 2004, that never seemed sustainable. We all knew the Donovan McNabb-Terrell Owens dynamic was a ticking time bomb. There was no way T.O. was going to have a long run with the Eagles, and without him, that just wasn't an elite team. A good team but not an elite team.

This feels different.

This team was built to last, built to be sustainable, built to contend for Super Bowls every year for the foreseeable future.

The Eagles haven't won playoff games in consecutive seasons since 2003 and 2004. They've had sporadic success but since those first few Andy Reid seasons, they haven't been able to sustain any measure of success.

Now they can. Now they will.

This really feels like the start of something special. Not the end.
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post #2 of 481 (permalink) Old 02-06-2018, 10:50 PM
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So who is going to be the quarterback next year, Wentz or Foles?
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wentz if/when he's healthy

the birds are up against the cap hard
some people will have to be let go
and yet we still have a few free agents that it'd be great to re sign

we draft last and draft least this year
no 2nd or 3rd round picks

it'll be interesting to see what happens with foles
they have 15mill invested in all QBs next year
they don't have to move him.
they will listen to offers ,but I think it will take a real good offer
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foles will have to want to go to the team
I think they will take less to keep foles happy
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Unless somebody knocks their socks off with an offer for Foles, he will most likely be the opening day starter. I would not bring Wentz back until 100% healthy. It will be interesting to see what the future holds for Mr. MVP. I don't think any other team has been faced with a situation quite like the Eagles have right now.
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So who is going to be the quarterback next year, Wentz or Foles?
I think it will be Nick to begin with and then switch over to Carson once he is fully healed and in Football-Shape.

But wouldn't be interesting if Pederson and his staff somehow developed a scheme in which both these Q Backs could play? Just think of how that duo could effect the defense of other teams and add another dimension to the game. The play book would be the same no matter who was the Q back but the threat to the opponents D line relative to execution and process / progressions could be interesting.

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Interesting thought. Who would they game plan for? It would drive defensive coordinators crazy.
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So, the off-season might be a little tricky. It always is when you have good players that need to get paid. But....they saw the chance to win the big one this year and went for it. And that's all that matters in the short term. Once we get to the summer, I'll start looking at what they need to do for 2018. It's been a long time since 1960, and they never won a SB. So I'm going to revel in this one for a while.

Wentz will be back on time. Foles will ride out his last year as a back-up and he'll assess the situation next year. There are about 21 starters who are already under contract. Wentz is still on rookie deal. as is Barnett and Sidney Jones. I think they'll be OK in 2018. The 2019 season is where we'll have to make some tough decisions.
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Basically you have two of the best NFL quarterbacks on the same team now. One is going to leave, for a lot of money.
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Caleb Sturgis will surely be moved for a price, Brent Celek is 33 and most likely will retire or be let go, which then he would retire and devote full time attention to his restaurant business.
Peters is a maybe, he is 36 and how much can that healed up knee take with close to 350 lbs of weight on it everyday?
Darren Sproles is done and he was going to retire after this season anyhow.

QB will be Foles to start the pre-season and until Wentz is ready to to step in. I am sure the Eagles and Nick are in no hurry to part ways anytime soon, and when he does go he will retire and his Jersey will hang high above the Linc.
Its good to see so many of the starters are signed for the next couple seasons.

EAGLES are almost a lock at winning the division again next year but the Vikings, Saints, Rams, Pitt and of course the crybaby will have his team back in it again. Thing working against the Pats is all the coaches that left and they are a aging team.

Drafting at 32 the EAGLES may as well trade away their 1st round pick for a later round.

Interesting read on Foles options.......
https://www.sbnation.com/2018/2/5/16...mvp-trade-team
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the ball is still in foles hands
the eagles really like and respect nick
if nick wants to stay ,nick stays
if nick wants to be a starter somewhere else
they will move him , even for less then hes worth,
to where nick wants to play

I could also see nick restructuring a longer deal and staying in philly as a back up

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