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post #11 of 14 (permalink) Old 09-13-2018, 12:18 PM
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way to go ! I would be very happy with gun now !!!!

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post #12 of 14 (permalink) Old 09-14-2018, 08:13 AM
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Very nice!!

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post #13 of 14 (permalink) Old 09-14-2018, 02:18 PM
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BP the rifle looks great. How do you think that peep site will be in low light conditions?

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post #14 of 14 (permalink) Old 09-14-2018, 08:19 PM Thread Starter
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in a dark hemlock woods, the peep isn't going to be very good. but, I am leaving on the rear sight and that will be good for as far as I can shoot in the woods. the "peep" Vernier sight is a "short range" sight for shooting out to about 600 yards. we will be going to a range soon to get it sighted in, I don't have that long of an area here.

a little history on the 40-70 Ballard cartridge: of the approx. 160,000 Winchester high wall rifles made between 1885 and 1920, only approx. 300 were made in that cartridge, which makes it a pretty rare round and somewhat difficult to find ammo for. the reloading dies are custom as well as the brass. brass can be made/reformed from other existing brass or custom brass can be made. load data and ballistics are a little scarce as well.

This rifle actually has a very unusual history. when I bought it, it was advertised as a 40-70 Ballard and I bought/paid for such. while waiting for it to arrive, I had bought some custom made ammo and other supplies for it so I was ready to shoot it when it came. when I got it, it appeared to be as advertised and I started shooting it. after having it for a couple days, I decided to remove the forend to make sure it was good and clean ect. upon removing it, I saw stamped on the underside of the barrel: REBORE ##### J.P.P.. I was stunned and pissed that I had paid a pretty good sum of money for something that wasn't what it was supposed to be. after very close examination, you could see that the barrel had a liner in it. I freaked out!!!! after I calmed down, I started an internet search on any info I could find. the seller wasn't talking and never did get back with me. so, looooong story short, I was advised to contact the Cody museum that has all of the original Winchester records to have a search done for it. I contacted them and sent $70 for the records if any were available for it. after a 5 week wait, I got conformation back that the gun was built in June of 1893 and was chambered in 38-55. it was then sent back to the factory in 1909 and rechambered/lined in 40-70 Ballard. the work order number and the number and initials stamped on the rifle match the original factory paper work, JACKPOT!!!!! So, I am being told now that the gun probably is worth more because of the original factory records and the gunsmith (J.P.P.) that performed the work. hope I haven't bored everyone too badly!!!!
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