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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-24-2014, 12:59 AM Thread Starter
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The end of an era

Heard some industry news that about blew my mind the other day. I work in a gun shop and our sales rep from Freedom Group, which owns Remington, Marlin, H&R and other firearms companies, stopped in this week. He informed us that starting January 1st, H&R/NEF would no longer produce single shot rifles and shotguns. They will instead focus on pump and semi uto shotguns. I had to ask him if he didn't reverse that statement but he confirmed it. My first shotguns were H&R single shots my uncles passed on to me. I find it sad that those simple single shots will soon be gone from the market.
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Unfortunately, the 20th Century is gone and many gun companies are no longer independent and decisions are made on investment purposes only.

Some news over the last few years.

Cerberus is named after a mythological three-headed dog that guards the gates of [censored], but it is Freedom Group that currently has a public image problem. Freedom Group is comprised of Remington, Bushmaster Firearms, DPMS/Panther Arms, Marlin, H&R, The Parker Gun, Mountain Khakis, Advanced Armament Corp., Dakota Arms, Para USA and Barnes Bullets.

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An official at the California teachersí pension fund, which has $750 million invested with the private equity firm,

Cerberus Capital Management, was on the line, raising questions about the firmís ownership of the Freedom Group, the gun

maker that made the rifle used in the Connecticut school shootings.
December 18, 2012
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Cerberus Capital, Owner Of Gun Manufacturer Freedom Group, Will Sell Off All Assets In Firearms
Posted: 12/18/2012 (Still pending)

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Talking of discontinued models, TC/Thompson Center was acquired by Smith & Wesson Corp. and they discontinued the flintlock and percussion muzzleloader, surely missed in PA.
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This makes me sick. First it happens to T/C in a sense. S&W killed their traditional guns. Now H&R going down. All of my favorites have been ruined. Zerbus has ruined Remington and Marlin just to start now ruining H&R totally.

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What about the barrel program?

If an inline is just like a flintlock why don't you get a flintlock so you can hunt more seasons?
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the one good thing is that if you own a NEF or the T C Encore barrels and actions that sure probably raises their value. Notice you can't even buy a 22 Hornet barrel in a 24 inch Encore barrel anymore!
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They're just going back to the H&R brand name. The guns will all be H&R now, but they are still making single shots:

Brand transition

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the one good thing is that if you own a NEF or the T C Encore barrels and actions that sure probably raises their value. Notice you can't even buy a 22 Hornet barrel in a 24 inch Encore barrel anymore!
Sure you can:

Bullberry Barrel Works

These folks have been around for over 15 years that I know of.

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what makes the S & W single shot Encore worse then the T/C made Encores? Do they rust, are they just junk, they don't marry up with barrels, etc? Why is the new company stuff junk?
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Would the older T/C actions and barrels be worth more because of the S & W quality of their Encores?
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They're just going back to the H&R brand name. The guns will all be H&R now, but they are still making single shots:

Brand transition
That may be an older announcement. The H&R name has been on the guns for a few years now. NEF has been off of them for the same amount of time. I own both. Hmmmmmmmmmm... Really curious now.

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