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.223 H&R ?

I am getting ready to buy a .223 H&R with a bull barrel, scoped, and would like some input about it. What do you use it on and the load. Coyote, deer, groundhogs, any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Varmints. The triggers, even on the ulta varmint line is not great to horrible. IF you can find with an at least decent trigger, you'll be ahead of the game. Likely you won't though, so a trigger job by a competent gun smith will be in order. If I remember correctly, H&R provides this service at a low price, but you need to send the receiver to them. I have owned 6 H&Rs and every single one needed a trigger job done. After that, your standard barrel break in is recommended along with probably floating and glassing the forend and you should have a real shooter. It sounds like more work than it is, but trust me. Youll appreciate it later...

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You are correct about the trigger pull!! My finger is sore from it. I'm going to drop the trigger assembly and hone it to a poundage that will not need a pry bar to operate and be safe. It shoots very well, zero at a hundred with hollow points.
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You are correct about the trigger pull!! My finger is sore from it. I'm going to drop the trigger assembly and hone it to a poundage that will not need a pry bar to operate and be safe.
I've done a dozen or so NEF triggers. You'll need some Flitz and #600-1000 wet-dry paper and a lubricant, I use Break-Free

The process involves more polishing than honing. You also need to make a slave pin to reinstall the lifter-transfer bar and the trigger guard.

Don't monkey with any of the springs.

This is one of the best procedures.
Handi Rifle trigger Part 1
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If you follow those instructions you should be able to get the WOP in the 3 to 3-1/2 pound range...safely!

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Thanks a bunch!! I have my clock-makers tools ready, perfect for gun-smithing!
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It is funny how people feel about triggers. I have NEF/H&R guns from the 1960`s to present and I love the triggers. I prefer a little harder pull plus I think mine are smooth and no to little to no creep. If you like light to hair triggers I can see this being a problem. As a side, the rifle you are getting is exactly what I want for my next one

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I put 30 + rounds through it yesterday and am still looking for the right load. I like weapons that are tighter than just hitting a pie plate at 100 yds. At present it is 3/4" to 1 1/4" at 100 yds, pending the gnats around my head at the bench, they were madding. Three to four pound pull is okay for me, BUT must be a clean break. I have floated the barrel, not sure it was needed being a bull barrel.
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I have floated the barrel, not sure it was needed being a bull barrel.
I'll give you another little tidbit. When you lock up the action make sure there some clearance between the forend and the action. Usually its a nice tight fit so the barrel doesn't wobble around when open, but I puts downward stress on the barrel when closed and locked. The old "O" ring trick to space the forend down doesn't eliminate it.

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Okay, thank you!
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WildBill --- To make this clearance between the action and forearm, do you remove any metal. Or remove the two screws that hold the metal to the rear of the forearm and reduce the wood? This looks as if that would give some play to the opened breech.
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