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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-21-2011, 09:28 PM Thread Starter
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Powered/Non powered question

I can't find an answer for this so maybe someone here will know. If I take an old 15 foot skiff fron the 50's I found in a barn, can I put just a trolling motor on it and get a launch permit only? It never had a title, and if it ever was registered its been decades ago. It has an ID plate, but you can't read any of it, its just shiny aluminum. Does a trolling motor put you in the Powered category if there is no gas motor? Please help.

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Sorry Joe...trolling motor makes it powered

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Re: Powered/Non powered question

OK, what do I do then if I want to register it? I can't read anything, hull ID, capacity, etc. and don't know the year for sure. What is the "official" way to go about that?

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go to your local registation office

I didnt come this far to miss.
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Not good news... If you cannot come up with a hull ID# or a past registration to trace, you cannot register the boat powered. The gals are very nice at the PFBC, but the rules are rules. I emailed the manufacturer with a run#/serial # I found on it, maybe by chance they can find a hull # for me.

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Re: Powered/Non powered question

If it was made in the 50's as you say, it won't have a hull id number. They never started being used until 1972.

See number 11 in the FAQ.

http://fishandboat.com/faqregt.htm

Were there any old registration decals or numbers on the boat? It was never registered, it would not have needed to be given its circumstances. Having never been registered and being made before 1972, it would not have ever had a HIN from the manufacturer, nor would it have had one assigned from the fish commission. I would call them back and point this out to them. As long as you have some kind of proof of ownership, they should assign you a HIN number. if your capacity plate is gone or not legible, you'll have to get one of those from the state.
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see these forms and reference them:

Application for hull ID number

application for capacity plate
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If no Hull Id number, just get a new numbewr and start the process.
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I think I know what I am going to do, just one more question. There is a clear and seperate tag with a serial #. Since with the info I got I know its way too old for a hull ID #, can I just submit the application for registration listing the serial # ? I don't see why that would not work. I do have a bill of sale for $1 from the guy who gave it to me, that shows he owned it and I "Bought" it. Why wouldn't that work ?

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You would be better off and could get the process moving quicker if you called the PFC in Hbg and speak to the folks in the boat registration section.



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