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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 12-09-2017, 10:10 PM Thread Starter
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Low Grouse Numbers True?

I'll start off by saying it's been quite a few years since I chased grouse. I was reading about the grouse population being down due to a virus, or some other phenomena. The past few days I was up in the north central part of the state deer hunting with some friends. On ever drive, we flushed grouse, and in one particular area we flushed 12 grouse between the two of us in a 1/4 mile walk. I know that the 4 I had seen definitely were not the same grouse flying and landing as when I flushed them, they went off to the right 90 degrees. Honestly, I was shocked and delighted at the number of grouse I had seen.

So my question is this, are the numbers really down, or is that in certain pockets of the state? We found grouse in the big hardwoods in the laurels, with the 12 mentioned above being found in an area that had been slash cut within the last 10 years as the sapplings were all about 1" thick or less.

Curious as to what the real grouse hunters are saying. Sad that there is no late season as I'd definitely have my English Setter up there after them!

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It must be true, out biologist says it is. And that is confirmed by the pheasant hunters who dont hunt grouse more than a couple days of the year, some not at all.

Plenty of scouting and good habitat makes for a great hunt.

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I'll start off by saying it's been quite a few years since I chased grouse. I was reading about the grouse population being down due to a virus, or some other phenomena. The past few days I was up in the north central part of the state deer hunting with some friends. On ever drive, we flushed grouse, and in one particular area we flushed 12 grouse between the two of us in a 1/4 mile walk. I know that the 4 I had seen definitely were not the same grouse flying and landing as when I flushed them, they went off to the right 90 degrees. Honestly, I was shocked and delighted at the number of grouse I had seen.

So my question is this, are the numbers really down, or is that in certain pockets of the state? We found grouse in the big hardwoods in the laurels, with the 12 mentioned above being found in an area that had been slash cut within the last 10 years as the sapplings were all about 1" thick or less.

Curious as to what the real grouse hunters are saying. Sad that there is no late season as I'd definitely have my English Setter up there after them!

Jay
Most likely you saw same grouse ..We had guys in our gang that saw 9 deer in day ,those 3 deer would run from 1 side of hollow to other and they would count,3,6,9 and could not wait to tell me they saw 9 deer..YES numbers are down way down....Yes during winter food source can be in 1 area and you could see many grouse and think they are like this everywhere...What you saw was grouse after cover/food in that area all bunched up usually that happens in jan/feb ..
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my dad and I are in northern potter , we've seen grouse several times on our land ,and riding 4- wheeler around our area
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post #5 of 31 (permalink) Old 09-02-2019, 01:10 PM
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Close grouse season. Over hunted. Not many grouse around due to virus and other things.
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post #6 of 31 (permalink) Old 10-13-2019, 10:21 PM
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The Scranton Times had an article today 10/13/2019 and it was on several birds that are down on population because of climate change. This may be true but the birds of prey are killing a lot of them. Then the Game Commission releases fishers that kill any thing and everything. This is also a big reason why bird populations are down. We had one grouse on our property for several years. One day I saw a hawk fly up off the ground in our woods. It had just killed the grouse and we have not seen another one here since.
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Cleaning the chimney last week and saw 3 redtails circling all over my place!
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The cabin where I spring turkey hunt at always heard grouse drumming but not the last few years and nobody hunts them there.
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I actually saw two grouse in 5B while on stand last week. First I’ve seen around here in roughly 20 years.
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Beaver County PA , Township of Brighton and South Beaver over to Chippewa into the Boroughs of Industry to Ohioville . They are gone, not seen one in about 7 years, stop hunting them about 20 some years ago. Back then you had to walk all day to find them. 25 years ago if you didn't get your limit that was on you. If you walked and could shoot you would get birds. 30 years ago was 10 15 flushes per hour, in the right spot. 35 years ago you could jump a covey and not be able to count them or which ones to shoot. But I recall all along that its a ten year low, they'll return, then it was loss of habitat, now we find out that is was west Nile. Is sad we lost that little bird, loved hearing them thunder from there spot. Drumming in the spring. They went the same as the pheasant. Just the other day I was explaining to My daughter the grouse. In fact we were trimming fence line tonight just over around from where I shot my first grouse and though I seen one running under some bittersweet but it was a bunny. Still a few of them on the farm.
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