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frozen water line

So this year we've run into an issue at the camp I goto...

The water line coming into the camp has been freezing...

We drain everything and antifreeze and all that is fine...its the line coming into the camp...

The first time we forgot to take the inline water filter off and thought that created a vacuum effect..I left the valve open in the pit below the frost line in hopes that it'd melt and drain...it did..next trip all was well..

Buddy went back up and she's frozen solid again...

Don't know if its the colder temps or what...

Any thoughts or ideas? Is there a way to get the water to drain better?


The line that's freezes comes out of the ground and about 3-4ft up to camp in through the floor...the back side of the camp is elevated off the ground...

The pipe is wrapped in insulation and stuff..but obviously not working...


Anything we can do?

I've been canceling my trips as its not fun to go up for extended trips and not have water...truck stop showers ain't cheap anymore! And doing dishes is a chore..
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Re: frozen water line

When we shut down the water system at my buddies duck and fishing camp, we hook up an air compressor and blow out the water system, drsin the toilet, put anti freeze in the toilet and all the sink traps.



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Re: frozen water line

we have heat tape wrapped around the pipe from the camp floor and going into the ground....then wrapped in insulation.

Are we at camp yet?
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Re: frozen water line

I physically blow (not that way) all the water out of the lines, got to push the water out or it will gather in pockets and freeze.

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Re: frozen water line

They sell electric heating wraps for pipes. Wrap the wire around the pipe and plug it in. Most any hardware store would sell this.
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Re: frozen water line

How far down is the pipe insulated. It should be insulated down to at least 3 ft. Wrap the pipe in several layers of armaflex(2 or 3) and then slip it inside a 4" pc. of pvc pipe. You could also wrap it with heat tape
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Re: frozen water line

I built a box around my water line. I put that shiney backed styroboard in for insulation and a light receptical hooked through a thermostat. If the temp drops below 40 in the box, the lightbulb comes on and keeps everything from freezing. I have never had that line freeze, even in the coldest temps.

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Re: frozen water line

Sounds like you got the blowing and anti-freezing down Mauser since you haven't had any issues there during this colder-than-normal winter.

You talked about a drain on the main waterline, you said you opened it after the line had frozen and it thawed and drained by the next trip up.

Why not do that as part of the winterizing each trip? That's what I do. I had a drain valve installed on the waterline in the well casing below the frost line. It gets opened and drained with everything else. Then we pressurize the system with air and blow out remaining water.

If you drain that main line coming from the well you'll eliminate the problem, no water, no freeze up.

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Re: frozen water line

Your well probably has a check valve at the pump. The water in the well line above the pump is not going to drain. There is no way to get it out so you have to prevent it from freezing. The heat tape should work.

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Re: frozen water line

I put a pitless on my line so I can pull it apart where the line goes through the casing. It drains the line from there to the pump. After the water all runs out (back into the well) I push the pitless back together. I pull it every year after my last trip up to camp.

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