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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 10-25-2012, 01:38 AM Thread Starter
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My relatives have a camp on some land. Unfortunately they are trying to force them off the land. Let me explain the back story. They were allowed to place the camp there in the mid 70's by an uncle that married in the family. About 10 years ago the his family decided to sell the land off. The company that purchased the land allowed my family to keep the camp on the property. This basically followed the same verbal agreement that they always had in force. A few years later the company sold the land to another company. Unfortunately this new company recently determined that they didn't actually own the land and they want them off. My question would be in regard to easements under pa law. My family has paid taxes on the structure and maintained the land the camp sets upon. Any info would help.
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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 10-25-2012, 02:46 AM
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Re: Timber company forcing camp owners off land

The best place to start would be with an attorney who has some experience with similar situations ... you can rest assured that the timber company will have an attorney representing their interests. Good luck.

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Get an attorney. Have money and time to spend. Be prepared to loose. The taxes may be a helpful angle.

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post #4 of 24 (permalink) Old 10-25-2012, 09:07 AM
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Re: Timber company forcing camp owners off land

Liability is the reason, there is no personal issue with the new land owner. I have seen it quite a few times. You will be facing an expensive fight that you will not win. The taxes they paid were for the building. The new owner can simply order them to remove the building. The new owner can also post the ground and not allow them to hunt at all. Sorry to say they don't have much of a fight.

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Re: Timber company forcing camp owners off land

Why in the world didn't your Uncle have the parcel/lot deeded to him specifically in the mid-70's when he built the camp ?

I honestly don't think there's much recourse for you/them if that timber co. owns the land... paying taxes or not.

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post #6 of 24 (permalink) Old 10-25-2012, 01:49 PM
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Re: Timber company forcing camp owners off land

Unless there is something in the deed allowing the building to exist and the permissions and accesses that go with it, you are in a very high risk position. Talk to a lawyer for confirmation, but don't invest much unless the lawyer gives you a high probability of success based on specific deed language.
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post #7 of 24 (permalink) Old 10-25-2012, 03:29 PM
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Re: Timber company forcing camp owners off land

as i understand it there is a law if you use a parcel of land for 15 years you can claim ownership.not familar with the law but have heard people talking about it.
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Re: Timber company forcing camp owners off land

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as i understand it there is a law if you use a parcel of land for 15 years you can claim ownership.not familar with the law but have heard people talking about it.
It is called 'Adverse Possession' and I think you have to be covering the property tax for the parcel. I see it mentioned on other boards usually involving mid-west and western states, I don't know if PA has the same thing.

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Re: Timber company forcing camp owners off land

One of the requirements for Adverse Possession is it has to be hostile (meaning without the owner's permission). Since they were given permission to build the camp; adverse possession does not apply. They may have some sort of prescriptive easement, maybe.

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Re: Timber company forcing camp owners off land

keep in mind that the adverse possession option relies on a judge to take that property from the owner and give it to you. that probably won't happen
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