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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 12-24-2018, 07:54 AM Thread Starter
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Plumbing question ? ? ?

Ok- let's lay the ground work.

1)Well water temp comes in at 42*- water comes into the basement, through the pressure tank, filter system, then to manifold- for dispersal. All pex, all lines have their own valve off the manifolds. All lines (hot and cold) have foam insulation on them.

2)When we turn any hot water faucet or shower up stairs, it can take about 30-45 seconds for the hot water to reach the spigot from the tank. (Tank temp is running at 140*).

Here is the problem-- toilet tank sweating so much this past camp season we had to put a towel under the base of the toilet to make sure we don't ruin the floor.

I found two solutions- 1) toilet pan, but not liking this since there isn't a lot of room around the commode to take it out and dump it, nor am I in love with having to clean it. or 2) toilet tank mixing valve, where I hook up a hot water line and the cold line and mix the the two to get a higher temp water into the tank to prevent the sweating.

BUT: Here is my thought, the valve won't be working as designed since I have one of those 1.5 gallon flush toilets, the water coming in the hot water line to the valve will be just as cold as the cold line on the initial flush, and won't run enough to get any warm water to the tank.

Possible Solution (?)- would I be just as far ahead by running just a hot water line to the tank, then just make sure everyone flushed twice to bring in warmer water to the tank. Making the change is no problem because along with Pex, I used all shark bite connections.

Is my thinking sound, or is there something I'm missing?

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You can buy cloth tank covers, they insulate the tank from the warm air in the bathroom and prevent sweating. You remove the tank lid and slip the tank cover over the tank, an elastic band holds it in place, If I remember correctly they have a tank lid cover to match. It would be a cheaper solution than what you posted.

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Small fan at tank to evaporate?

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This past year was awful for humidity.
Your idea of running a hot water line to the toilet will work and you'll only need to flush once. The residual water in the pipe (between the water heater and the toilet) will only cool to room temperature and should not cause condensation on the tank.


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They also have a foam tank liner that works good, I use it with no problems.
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no matter what the temp is on the incoming supply ,
it will warm or cool to room temp.
you would really want to control the temp in the tank not the supply

how about this...
got to the pet store and get a good sized aquarium heater
since there no water circulation in the tank , installing horizontally low in the tank will create a thermal convection

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Need more heat in your bathroom.

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twistedoak : you stole my response. LOL. I think an aquarium would work.

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no matter what the temp is on the incoming supply ,
it will warm or cool to room temp.
you would really want to control the temp in the tank not the supply

how about this...
got to the pet store and get a good sized aquarium heater
since there no water circulation in the tank , installing horizontally low in the tank will create a thermal convection
Thought about that- no outlets readily available, and really don't like extension cords around water. I want my kids to inherit the camp, but not just yet.

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Yep. Plumb with hot water
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