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Plumbing/Hot Water Tank Replacement

During a family vacation to camp this week disaster struck. Well not disaster but close.

2 leaks.

1) Hot water tank is shot. Leaking around the bottom. Not sure how many gallons but the measurments are approx 16" diameter by 22" tall(10 gallon?). It is 110v with on off switches attached. It has leaked a bit(Inlet pvc pipe was leaking and glued up solid) since I bought the place 11 years ago so I am kinda glad I need to replace it.

Now the questions.

1) What type of hot water tank should I get. Are there any that come with on/off switches already attached? The tank was ok, it is only used for short showers and washing dishes. If I took a long shower it would go cold. 5+ minutes.

2) Are there any tanks that are made to be drained after every use?

3) What is the best way to install a unit. It is actually in the bathroom so I want a clean look with maybe a "basin" under it incase there are any future leaks.

4) Should I replace the plastic drain valve that comes with the new tank with a better one?

5) I also want to replace all the piping. It is not much. The water comes in under the kitchen sink goes into the bathroom 5' and then goes to the toilet, shower and bathroom sink. Because of many leaks over the years I had replaced a lot of it with the flexible screw on hoses. This allows me to make sure everything is empty when I winterize the camp. I like the idea of the press in fittings. My mother in law has that type in her house. What is it called and is it affordable/reliable?

The other leak was from the well pump. I am not sure where that one is coming from yet. I could feel it, but just when I dug to it someone inside turned on the water to use the restroom and the hole filled up with muddy water.(Kids shesh) So that will be a project for the next time up.

A little more info.

Water comes from the well and is rusty. I have a single filter where it comes into the camp under the kitchen sink. We have not had the water tested but do not drink it. It is only used for washing dishes/showers.


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Rick

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Re: Plumbing/Hot Water Tank Replacement

I dont know the ins and outs of them, but have you considered an on demand hot water system? That is, a small wall mounted unit that heats water in the pipes. They can be had in electric or gas versions. The only thing I do know about them is that they aren't cheap.

I'd look at a slightly bigger tank if I were you too. And, as far as draining the plumbing (a good idea) get a fitting for an air line and several valves in the line. Then, at the end of winter, open the valves and blow air through them. That works at my place, but you have to have a fitting for an air line somewhere on your pipes.

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Re: Plumbing/Hot Water Tank Replacement

My water is rusty too and I have a filter right where the well feeds the plumbing for the camp. It is not nearly good enough to get the water to drinking quality, so I use the well water to run the toilet, shower and wash dishes.

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The Golden Rule of Home Repair: "Water, under pressure, will go anywhere; electricity will kill you". Remember this simple rule my frind and let it guide you in your efforts to maintain the homestead.

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Re: Plumbing/Hot Water Tank Replacement

The tankless is best, but not cheap. consider it an investment. With any type of tank unit there is a life-span, and not a long one. In a camp, the constant on/off fill/ drain is not good for them, they are engineered to be full and on all the time. If you plan on having the place a while, go with the wall mount tankless, and even if you sell, its a great selling feature to a potential buyer.

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Re: Plumbing/Hot Water Tank Replacement

If you are going to stay with a tank, you should go bigger. At lowes a 30 gallon cost less then a 12 gallon so its a no brainer to go bigger if space permits. Im not sure what you mean by a tank that is made to dain after each use? Every tank has a drain valve so Im not sure I understand your question? I personally have never seen a tank that comes stock with a on off switch, you can easily do this during the wiring of the tank.

You can also get a water tank pan for around $20 and the "press in fittings" are expensive compaired to traditional fittings but save some time.
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Re: Plumbing/Hot Water Tank Replacement

I myself went with a tankless propane water heater from sportsman guide and never will look back. It works perfect and there are two different models to choose from..easy to hook-up and also to winterize too! Please consider this option before you buy or commit to a tank heater....
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Re: Plumbing/Hot Water Tank Replacement

Thank for the replies. Rem I will check that one out. I was looking at the specs on the tankless and I am not all that impressed. I would have to go with a large KW output 18+ to be able to take showers bear/deer season. The water can't be much more than a 40 degrees that time of year. A 40 degee temp rise seems to be the norm at around 2 galons per minute. I will research this some more.

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I think they make em for gas too.

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Re: Plumbing/Hot Water Tank Replacement

No gas at camp. Not unless its venison chille night! I like the idea of adding a 20 lb tank.

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