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Lumber liquidators formaldehyde

Anybody who installed this product from LL might be interested in this story......


OAKLAND, CA – A lawsuit filed against Lumber Liquidators says Chinese-made flooring sold by the company emits formaldehyde at levels far above permissible CARB levels, requiring cancer warning labels according to California law.


Federal agents raided Lumber Liquidators headquarters in Toano, VA, seeking evidence to corroborate allegations that the flooring retailer violated the Lacey Act in importing product illegally sourced from Siberian forests.
The lawsuit was filed by Global Community Monitor after independent lab results revealed the results of formaldehyde tests. The lawsuit accuses Lumber Liquidators of falsifying information. According to the lawsuit the company claims on its website “all of its flooring comes from mills certified as compliant with California’s standards for formaldehyde.”

In a response to the lawsuit, officials at Lumber Liquidators said the allegations raised are "flat out false."They said the products sold in their stores meet "the highest quality and environmental standards."

"Our product meets relevant environmental standards and undergoes rigorous, independent, third party testing. More specifically, our internal testing and that conducted by third parties concluded that product levels fell well below the Proposition 65 “safe harbor” limits," company officials said.

Company officials said Lumber Liquidators’ products are tested to be in compliance with California law and that the company is transparent about its "quality control and assurance processes."

According to Global Community Monitor's lawsuit, test results showed “average initial formaldehyde exposures over 100 times above the amount allowed to be sold without a warning label under Proposition 65, California’s main toxics law.” The lawsuit says none of the Lumber Liquidator samples that were tested had a warning label on the box, none of the stores where samples were purchased had a Proposition 65 warning, and no warnings were provided at the time of purchase over the internet.

Proposition 65 requires products containing chemicals that cause cancer to carry a warning label if the levels exceed the so-called “safe harbor” level. Formaldehyde, often used in the glue for laminate flooring and other pressed-wood products, can be released in gas form and cause medical problems, including cancer, the lawsuit says.

Global Community Monitor’s lawsuit is the latest issue to plague Lumber Liquidators. In December 2013 a class action lawsuit alleged the company inflated its earnings during a 21-month period by importing illegally sourced lumber in violation of the federal Lacey Act.

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Let's see now. First there was the issue with the China made children's toys that had lead in the paint, then the sheet rock that was shipped to New Orleans and contained some sort of harmful chemical, then the dog food and now this. You can't buy a "big drink, in NYC, but this crap coming in from China to US consumers somehow gets through. So much for our gooberment protecting the consumer. Michael Bloomberg; where are you now?

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The story was on 60 minutes last night. They went to the factory in China where they make the stuff and the Chinese mfg. admitted it contained high levels of formaldehyde. He said to make it the right way would be very expensive.

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I guess then that these government regulations that stipulate how US manufacturing must operate, what standards products must achieve are only applicable to products made in the USA. And with that, the junk coming in from non US corporations is immune from the regs, and can be produces at a lower cost and then be more attractive to US consumers in terms of expense. Kind of like the trucks coming in from Mexico that drive on US roads not being subject to safety inspections that apply to trucks belonging to US corporations. Another reason to review the laws we have and get rid of the burdensome junk laws and redesign the ones we should keep. However, the problem with that last sentence is that politicians would do the work and that, in itself, is a problem. Oh brother....

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I find it hard to believe that the government does not know about this. My guess is some low life politician or corporate exec is getting a nice kickback to turn the other way.

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That would be the US State Department. You know, that internationally recognized den of highly educated, yet exceedingly out of touch, pseudo-intellectuals that sells our presidents "foreign policy" to other countries. It's now headed by John Kerry (threw his Viet Nam medals, not his real ones - he kept them, over the WH fence as a protest to the war)and who married the widow of Sen. John Heinz and became the defacto heir to the Heinz fortune; and that was headed by Hillary (Bengazi - What difference does it make now?) Clinton who has already been president twice and now wants to do it again, this time not disguised as her lecherous husband.

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Corporate America at it's finest.......
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I just installed this in my whole house now I don't know what to do. Any lawyers on here have any suggestions.
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was looking at it for camp floors also....

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Formaldahyde has long been an issue in "laminated" products, even those made here. Years ago it was cheap paneling causing reactions and allergies in some people.

Back in the early 70s a BIL and I installed inexpensive paneling in their bedroom to cover deteriorating plastered walls. It was what they could afford at the time.

His wife couldn't sleep in there for months, until the "fumes" dissipated enough to suit her, which basically was the arrival of spring and warm enough weather that the windows could be left open.

When we built our original 12x20 shanty for a hunting camp, covered the interior with cheap paneling that dad decided was "good enough".

When that place had been closed up tight and you first opened 'er up, same thing: Made your eyes water for while until it was aired out. Eventually got better over time as the adhesive fumes went away after a year or so.

Now covering it all with T&G pine, so the next fume period will be from the polyurethane.

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