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post #1 of 114 (permalink) Old 12-06-2011, 01:47 AM Thread Starter
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HB 2034 - Legis're Control Of Wildlife Management

This bill was introduced by no friend of sportsmen - Rep Hanna.

He seeks to wrest control of antlerless allocations from the GC and BOC.


Now, for those cheering, just how informed is a representative on deer, biology, or the other factors involved?

My personal experience is not very.

Second, any counter balance to the GC is lost. The legislature will have that control. Politics will rule rather than the resource or the good of the herd or the sport.


Take the time to actually read this bill.




Underlined text is new text.



There are several particularly troublesome section in this bill. The first:



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fulfilling this duty, the commission shall focus primarily on

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serving the interest of sportsmen and our special heritage of

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recreational hunting and furtaking.




Yes, and no. Right now the GC has responsibility for all wildlife in the state. Deer, and this is all about deer, are one species. Deer impact the other animals by removing the cover, food, and concealment many require. ALL game animals suffer the affects of to many deer - even deer.



That leads to this:




Serve the interest of sportsmen by preserving and

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promoting our special heritage of recreational hunting and

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furtaking by
maximizing the sustainable harvest of the

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whitetail deer herd





Right out of the Unified Sportsmen's Lawsuit brief and the prime argument they used all three times. Of course, Hanna is their guy on the hill. Lock stock and barrel.


Last, as to the qualifications of the committee:


(b) Composition.--The committee shall consist of licensed

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hunters. One member shall be appointed by each of the following:

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(1) The Board of Commissioners of the commission.

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(2) The President pro tempore of the Senate.

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(3) The Minority Leader of the Senate.

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(4) The Speaker of the House of Representatives.

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(5) The Minority Leader of the House of Representatives.

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(c) Restriction.--No member of the commission may be

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appointed to the committee.

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(d) Term.--

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(1) The member appointed under subsection (b)(1) shall

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serve an initial term of four years.


Hows that for experience? Get elected to a leadership position in the legislature and you decide deer allocations.

People complain about the GC BOC being untouchable.

It is also important to remember that we are only one election way from liberals being in charge in sufficient numbers to do real harm. This state went for Obama in large numbers last election. I also tink that most still want term limits for legislatures... due to the power grab and political influence they obtain.





Read this bill. Understand this bill.



It is far more than more deer. It is giving up independent control of deer management to politicans only concerned about the next donation and election. The very same people we clamor about being out of touch and out of control - will now have the final say in deer management if this passes.





Bill sponsors:

HANNA, GERGELY, AUMENT, CALTAGIRONE, D. COSTA, CREIGHTON, CUTLER, EVERETT, FABRIZIO, GEIST, GODSHALL, GOODMAN, HESS, HORNAMAN, KORTZ, KOTIK, KRIEGER, LONGIETTI, MIRABITO, MULLERY, READSHAW, WATERS AND YOUNGBLOOD




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http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legi...br=2034&pn=2794



When the legislature has control of hunting or hunting issues - we all suffer. We only need to look at other states and look at the losses where this happens.


This bill is dangerous and short sighted.


This is - without a doubt one of those bills that needs to be killed before it gets going. Contact your representative and oppose legislative control of wildlife management.

Change in the deer program is the responsibility of sportsmen and the commission. End runs that will likely result in more harm than good for political gain helps not one of us.

Is your position a short term gain - or a long term loss? Separate the issues.
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post #2 of 114 (permalink) Old 12-06-2011, 02:00 AM Thread Starter
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Re: HB 2034 - Legis're Control Of Wildlife Management

Find your legislator:

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...lator/#address

Is your position a short term gain - or a long term loss? Separate the issues.
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Re: HB 2034 - Legis're Control Of Wildlife Management

Hate to say it, but many hunters of this state will support this and cheer it on.

Where have you been? I had to work late... Oh these? Yeah, it was 'camo day' at work again .
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I wonder how much of this is can be attributed to HB1760?

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I wouldn't say "attributed to" but rather their are always hunters who "run to mommy" (The Legislature) when they can't see the forest through the trees with regards to hunting and the many issues involved... no matter how damaging it might be.

This piece is damaging no matter what the reasons. But we've seen it many times, hunters who think Government is better suited to run Wildlife Management. Be careful what you wish for as I'll guarantee it will bite you in the end.

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Many on this forum will support it, sadly.




When you are up to your butt in alligators, it is hard to remember your intent was to drain the swamp. Stay focused!
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I wonder how much of this is can be attributed to HB1760?
None. He floated this idea before the SH thing.



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GERGELY

Seriously? Gergely? The guy who sent me 7 emails asking if I would back sunday hunting for bow hunters only. The guy who in those 7 emails touted the greatness of the PGC. The guy who....awww forget it, this guy is a complete....better not, ill get a vacation
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post #9 of 114 (permalink) Old 12-06-2011, 07:45 PM
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Hasn't the, "Sunday hunting thing" been an annual occurance for many years? I think I read that somewhere here.

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Aint just him most of them dont have a clue on whatto do no matter what it is. To busy trying to figure out it would benefit them and help them get relected.

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