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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 11-27-2011, 11:13 PM Thread Starter
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HB 1760 a Charade?

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"This has never been a political issue. There's no Republican or Democratic way to manage wildlife," said former state representative Dave Levdansky of Forward, who is a hunter.

Last November, when Mr. Levdansky lost his seat after 26 years in office, he was the Democratic chairman of the House Finance Committee and a member of the Game and Fisheries Committee, a strategic perch from which he influenced issues vital to sportsmen. In office he supported several bills that would have made hunting on Sundays legal.

"The reason Sunday hunting failed in previous passes through the legislature was that legislators didn't want to have to face their constituents after the vote," he said. "This bill gives supporters political cover [because] it gives the call to the Game Commission. They can say, 'I didn't vote for Sunday hunting -- I voted to take it out of the blue laws and make it a wildlife management issue in the hands of the Game Commission, where it should be.' "



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Looks like Levdansky said a mouthful here.
Appears this bill is just to deflect political fallout.
Now one can understand why the talking points.

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post #2 of 26 (permalink) Old 11-27-2011, 11:51 PM
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Re: HB 1760 a Charade?

If that's the case, why isn't this bill a shoe in?



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post #3 of 26 (permalink) Old 11-27-2011, 11:54 PM Thread Starter
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Re: HB 1760 a Charade?

Because the rest of the legislators realize their constituants are smarter than the crafters of this bill think?

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Two weeks ago at the Farm Bureau's annual meeting in Hershey, members defeated two resolutions that would have supported lifting the ban on Sunday hunting on State Game Lands and private commercial hunting preserves. They supported resolutions that would require hunters to carry written landowner permission while on private property and increase trespassing penalties.



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Farmers are a simple people...and apparently they have figured it out easy enough.

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Re: HB 1760 a Charade?

I believe I told you the exact same thing when the bill was still in the talking stage a long while back. It really wasn't that hard to figure out. Of course they couldn't even do that right, with the mandate to expand Sunday hunting in the bill they still exposed themselves.




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Re: HB 1760 a Charade?

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Farmers are a simple people...
Not really.
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post #6 of 26 (permalink) Old 11-29-2011, 07:01 PM Thread Starter
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Re: HB 1760 a Charade?

Not simple as in mentally simple....simple as in not over-complicating things. Very straight forward types.

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post #7 of 26 (permalink) Old 11-29-2011, 07:05 PM Thread Starter
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Re: HB 1760 a Charade?

You knew it...I knew it...It's just nice to see a former one of their own admit to it for a change.

But it's all about "regulatory authority".....

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Re: HB 1760 a Charade?

Don't tell me it's so!

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Re: HB 1760 a Charade?

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Looks like Levdansky said a mouthful here.
Appears this bill is just to deflect political fallout.
Now one can understand why the talking points.
I don't buy it Sig. The results of this bill passing lie at the feet of the legislators that voted for it. The PGC is only doing thier job which is to regulate hunting. Regardless of which days of the week they have at thier disposal.

The bill is black and white. It is the politicians that hold the cards and must live with thier votes. If the PGC expands Sunday hunting if this bill is passed, it is because the general assembly gave them full control of hunting regulation. The fallout, as you put it, will be with the legislators and that seems to be where you wish it to be. At least on the surface, it does.

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post #10 of 26 (permalink) Old 11-30-2011, 07:39 PM Thread Starter
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Re: HB 1760 a Charade?

Sorry, Mr Regulatory Authority, but your buddy Levdansky let the cat out of the bag.

Gonna have to come up with new talking points now.

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