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Restrictions could put damper on Sunday hunting

Restrictions could put damper on Sunday hunting

By Bob Frye, TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Monday, October 24, 2011


Farmers who suffer crop damage from deer might want to think twice about posting their land if Sunday hunting is legalized, according to one state lawmaker.

State Rep. Ed Staback is a Lackawanna County Democrat and one of the prime sponsors of House Bill 1760, which would remove the prohibition on Sunday hunting and let the Pennsylvania Game Commission decide whether to include the day in any seasons.

At a recent hearing on the issue, he said farmers who post their land against public access are automatically removed from programs such as the red tag program, which lets hunters shoot deer throughout the late winter and late summer. They have to stay out for two years, even if they open their land to the public again, he noted.

"These are things I just wonder if the farm community is thinking about when they talk about shutting down all of their land to all hunting," Staback said.

Another lawmaker, though, made it clear he still opposes Sunday hunting, and doubts it will lead to more participation in the sport. Sen. Richard Alloway, an Adams County Republican, said fishing has been legal on Sundays since 1937, yet participation in fishing has declined.

"My point is, we've had Sunday fishing all along and license sales are still going down," Alloway said.

The House of Representatives game and fisheries committee will hold its third and final public hearing on Sunday hunting Thursday at the Capital in Harrisburg. Game Commission executive director Carl Roe is expected to be among those testifying

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Re: Restrictions could put damper on Sunday hunting

Now were going to bully the farmers to back down from opposing Sunday Hunting????????? Nice
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Re: Restrictions could put damper on Sunday hunting

So The PGC would give free signs for farmers and others to put up saying no Sunday Hunting, but then these farmers that where still in certain programs would be kicked out of those programs?? A little bit of strong arming by Steback even if that is the way those programs are written to allow hunting on any day permitted? This would put a twist in a couple saying they would put up the signs for the farmers for no sunday hunting so there should be no big deal. Well with this being said I see why the PFB would be against this even more than I did before. Fire away cause this is going to be a fun post to watch from a couple of the pro and anti SH members.
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Re: Restrictions could put damper on Sunday hunting

The PGC and the NRA have both said they would give free signs. I've posted that at least 5 times and have seen where others have posted it.

They would NOT be kicked out of the program for resticting Sunday only

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Re: Restrictions could put damper on Sunday hunting

Farmers and farm orgs pestered for years to have "relief" from deer crop damange.

That's why PGC initiated Green Tag, Red Tag and DMAP programs in the first place, to help out farmers (and other landowners) with severe deer problems.

Deer causing crop damage are also why there are PGC regs to allow farmers (and others) to shoot deer out of season. But many do not adhere to those regs, which limit who can shoot deer and what must be done with the deer, afterwards.

Farmers got what they demanded, in terms of letting them deal with deer and crop damage. So why is it "bullying" to ask them for some concessions, when it comes to additional Sunday hunting?

If deer hunting isn't even a part of the initial Sunday hunting implementation and PFB still insists on urging their members to post against all hunting...what's the solution to dealing with that threat, other than to remove them from any PGC co-op program they now enjoy the benefits of.

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Re: Restrictions could put damper on Sunday hunting

Of the 6,100 members in the chapter, only 800 of them are classified as regular members, who earn their living off the land. Other members are involved in horticulture, farming support businesses, equine operations and vineyards.



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if there is only 800 out of 6100 in this chapter...i wonder how many real farmers are in the bureau statewide?

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Now were going to bully the farmers to back down from opposing Sunday Hunting????????? Nice
I guess the PFB doesn't like their own medicine!!!

Sunday Hunting = Posting of thier land....

Posting Land = No Gov't programs...

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Re: Restrictions could put damper on Sunday hunting

Farm Bureau "claims" over 50,000 "volunteer" members, whatever that is.

There are 58,000 farms in the state. Now, how many of those are REAL farms and not hobbyists, is unknown to me.



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Re: Restrictions could put damper on Sunday hunting

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Farm Bureau "claims" over 50,000 "volunteer" members, whatever that is.

There are 58,000 farms in the state. Now, how many of those are REAL farms and not hobbyists, is unknown to me.
Why should the real numbers be unknown? Surely the PaFB has those numbers.

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