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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 10-18-2011, 06:04 PM Thread Starter
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Trial for murderer postponed

The trial for the murderer of WCO Grove has been continued until April 2012 due to a motion from the defense saying they cannot be ready by the scheduled January 2011 date. You can bet the defense will do everything they can to delay starting this trial.




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post #2 of 27 (permalink) Old 10-18-2011, 06:40 PM
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Agree with John, they know their guy is going to lose!

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Win or loose is not in question, it requires three aggravating circumstances in PA to obtain a death sentence.

And in this case there are easily three, so the defense is going to have to find 1 or 2 mitigating circumstances to prevent a death sentence and go for life without the chance of parole.

The first of is the defendant left his home with a gun and spot light with intent to poach deer.
The second is a convicted felon in possession of a gun.
And the third is reloading and walking to the back of the truck to kill the victim.

But even if sentenced to death appeals will take close to 20 years if the death sentence still exists at that time.
Much of the testimony focused on the sequence of events the night 31-year-old Grove was killed while investigating reports of poaching. After his arrest, Johnson, a convicted felon, admitted to police that he shot Officer Grove, but said the game warden fired the first shot in their gun battle.

Investigators found 25 shell casings at the scene: 15 from Johnson's gun, 10 from Officer Grove's gun. State troopers testified Johnson had to reload his gun to fire off that many rounds. The autopsy shows Officer Grove was hit four times. Three in the lower body while he was near his Game Commission SUV and a fourth fatal shot in the neck while he was unarmed.

"That occurred at the back of his vehicle, about 10-12 feet from the back of his vehicle. the officer's gun was located by the front driver side door," said Adams County District Wagner Shawn Wagner.
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post #4 of 27 (permalink) Old 10-18-2011, 07:11 PM
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Irrelevant if WCO Grove fired first. At the presentation of a threat to his life while performing his duty, he was (lawfully) entitled to fire first.

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And thanks to the Castle Doctrine, we all are.

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Whats funny here is I think I know one of the other reasons that the defense has requested stay.

I didn't know officer Grove, never had a chance to meet the man. I don't personally know any GC officers. I only know a few police officers but none of them on a level where we are "friends" or going to each others homes for supper. However, I still have a lump in my throat and rage in my veins when I hear new developments in this case. My stomach still churns when I hear anything about it. Makes me sick!.
I know that with the amount of press at the time of the shooting, and many people feel just as angry as I do that any defense attorney would be waiting and hoping to get a jury that was uninformed and hadn't had any exposure to the press about the story and definitely aren't friends, family, acquaintances or sympathetic to law enforcement officers.
I would honestly expect to see a motion filed requesting a change of venue as well if there wasn't already.

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Nothing funny here, not a freaking think!




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bad choice of words (funny) but I understood what you meant.

It may be a poor choice of words but I am smart enough to understand what you meant.
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The trial for the murderer of WCO Grove has been continued until April 2012 due to a motion from the defense saying they cannot be ready by the scheduled January 2011 date. You can bet the defense will do everything they can to delay starting this trial.
Including citing threads like this that their client can't possibly obtain a fair trial. Don't forget to use the word accused, and possibly killer instead of murderer
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Political correctness and accepted procedure require that the system use terms like "the accused".

Not much circumstantial evidence at work here, as in some other cases. The person charged with murdering WCO Grove, has already admitted that he killed the officer because he was a convicted felon and didn't want to go back to prison.

His attorney can play with that all he wants to. The rest of us already know the score, on that account.

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