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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-26-2011, 10:35 PM Thread Starter
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Conservation & Natural Resources Advisory Council

Appears the Conservation & Natural Resources Advisory Council has concerns about future commissioner appointments.

http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/cnrac/Go...ns.8.31.11.pdf

http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/cnrac/

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Re: Conservation & Natural Resources Advisory Council

Lets see. We have a couple of attorneys after Greg's appointment and a county commissioner for Tom's- they are the big names- then we have some HPA members also out there (with a few others).

The Gov's council for Hunting Fishing and Conservation has always chosen the top candidates- and until they reconvene, I don't see what the big deal is. Someone has to do the initial interviews.


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Re: Conservation & Natural Resources Advisory Council

Or they can go the politically connected route.

Each governor can chose their own process.

I personally hope that they maintain the prior system.

It would also be nice to see a bio on all political appointees regardless of what post they are being considered for.

Is your position a short term gain - or a long term loss? Separate the issues.
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post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-26-2011, 11:48 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Conservation & Natural Resources Advisory Council

I just never saw the letter is all...figure something like that would have got posted on the board somewhere. Thanks for steering me to the right location though.

The beagles didn't come home yet...see what other cool stuff they sniff up. It's going to take some time to look into everyone's background a bit. It's always good to know all the players and their associates.

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Re: Conservation & Natural Resources Advisory Council

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Or they can go the politically connected route.

Each governor can chose their own process.

I personally hope that they maintain the prior system.

It would also be nice to see a bio on all political appointees regardless of what post they are being considered for.
LOL, ever hear of a "preferred candidate"? Ask any HR what the asterik on the top of the application means??? Some boldly address it in their supervisory training sessions when supervisors complain about not being able to select the "best" applicant.

I won't be so bold to say it would apply to these positions, but I will guarantee it happens on MANY lower level positions.

That is a fact!

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Lordy, I am running out of beagles!...LOL

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Re: Conservation & Natural Resources Advisory Council

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Or they can go the politically connected route.

Each governor can chose their own process.

I personally hope that they maintain the prior system.

It would also be nice to see a bio on all political appointees regardless of what post they are being considered for.
LOL, ever hear of a "preferred candidate"? Ask any HR what the asterik on the top of the application means??? Some boldly address it in their supervisory training sessions when supervisors complain about not being able to select the "best" applicant.

I won't be so bold to say it would apply to these positions, but I will guarantee it happens on MANY lower level positions.

That is a fact!
Better check your facts! Most positions in the PGC are Civil Service.

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Re: Conservation & Natural Resources Advisory Council

I'm aware of that. And I'll grant you it is easier in the Non-Civil Service arena, but rest assured it happens. M

Maybe not in the PGC?

I'll defer to you on that since you obviously are employed by them. But I can assure you it happens. Nepotism and political payback is prevalent. That my friend is a fact.

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Re: Conservation & Natural Resources Advisory Council

I know it was in Allegheny County years ago, I dont know if it still is. I havent seen it with the PGC. I didnt know a soul that worked for them when I took the test and went thru the process.

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Re: Conservation & Natural Resources Advisory Council

One of the PGC's past executive directors was called into a past governors's office not too long ago and told he will hire someone for a position in the PGC by the governor. The director told him he could not do that. The governor said I don't believe you understand what I just said. The director told him he did understand and that he still was not going to hire the individual. The governor told him that he would pay for not hiring the individual and told the director to leave. There was payback to the agency without a doubt but the director did the right thing.




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