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HB 1318 Theft of Trail Cameras

From: Representative Neal P. Goodman
To: All House members
Subject: Theft of Trail Cameras

More and more hunters are using trail cameras to identify and pattern wildlife. Unfortunately, there has also been an increase in the number of cameras stolen. We need to do more to give hunters protection of their investment and property.

That is why I am introducing legislation to add a specific crime within the Game Code for the stealing of trail cameras and devices used to visually record wildlife. Specifically, my bill will add these cameras to the section of Title 34 that covers hunter harassment and the theft or destruction of other hunting related personal property, such as tree stands, blinds, and decoys. It also increases the penalty for such acts to a summary of the first degree and mandates the loss of a hunting license for one year. The loss of license also triggers the requirement for a violator to attend a remedial hunter education and safety course.

I hope you will join me in providing hunters this important property protection.
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From: Representative Neal P. Goodman
To: All House members
Subject: Theft of Trail Cameras

More and more hunters are using trail cameras to identify and pattern wildlife. Unfortunately, there has also been an increase in the number of cameras stolen. We need to do more to give hunters protection of their investment and property.

That is why I am introducing legislation to add a specific crime within the Game Code for the stealing of trail cameras and devices used to visually record wildlife. Specifically, my bill will add these cameras to the section of Title 34 that covers hunter harassment and the theft or destruction of other hunting related personal property, such as tree stands, blinds, and decoys. It also increases the penalty for such acts to a summary of the first degree and mandates the loss of a hunting license for one year. The loss of license also triggers the requirement for a violator to attend a remedial hunter education and safety course.

I hope you will join me in providing hunters this important property protection.
Wouldn't the theft already fall under theft of property?

Why would there be a separate law?

Seems like the term hate crime just to added something that is not needed and is already against the law.
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Theft is already on the books and covers everything you own. i think what this does is allow the PGC to revoke a persons hunting license for theft and thats a good thing. i think he is getting a little smarter after the doe license thingy.

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Meh, I think I'll pass. I agree there is an issue with them but I highly doubt adding it to the Game code is going to substantively change anything. Why create another law just for the sake of doing so? Frankly I would rather see trail cameras banned on public land. I'm of the opinion public land should be governed that everything you take in with your comes out with you that day from candy wrappers on up to treestands.
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Theft is already on the books and covers everything you own. i think what this does is allow the PGC to revoke a persons hunting license for theft and thats a good thing. i think he is getting a little smarter after the doe license thingy.
This is a police matter, theft is theft, there is probably more theft of trail,cameras on private property than game lands. Theft is what the police are for. This clown must be trying to impress someone.
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Another law is going to do absolutely nothing to deter theft. The only thing that will mitigate the issue is for the manufactures to incorporate better theft protection on a widespread basis.

Anytime you leave valuable property in the woods you are risking theft, period. Try tying $100 bills to trees and see how long they last. That is how thieves view trail cams.
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i would like to see trail camera manufacturers incorporate a exploding dye pack and GPS chip into the camera. set the camera and activate the dye pack. take the camera off the tree with out deactivating the dye pack and BLAMMO....you are now leaving the woods with purple clothes and skin.
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I like the idea. To say it is a matter of theft....so is stealing traps. And the PGC does investigate that. I also like the idea of license revocations for thieves ( much like trap thieves lose their priveledges ).
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license revocation for theft should be 2 years for the first offense, and life time for the second.
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I like the idea. To say it is a matter of theft....so is stealing traps. And the PGC does investigate that. I also like the idea of license revocations for thieves ( much like trap thieves lose their priveledges ).
Brownie, there is a huge difference between stealing traps or fur, both those offenses are prohibited by the Game and Wildlife Code and are within the jurisdiction of the PGC. Trail cameras are not authorized by the game and wildlife code and really have not a thing to do with the PGC, they are the jurisdiction of the police departments the same as your vehicle or your wallet or your check book etc. Why would anyone think it is the job of the PGC to track down and prosecute trail camera thieves that were taken from SGL's or private property? It is a bone head bill that was made only to get some votes. I think our few wardens have enough to do without investigating a theft that belongs to the police.
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