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what happens after ?

with all this debate over sunday hunting going on, i was wondering, how many people oppose sunday hunting control given to the PGC because we cant trust them?

after what they have done to seasons and start dates just to make legislators happy and to keep them from using economy as a weapon against HR.

can we realy trust them with the power of sunday hunting ?
do we want deer numbers even lower ? some do , i dont.
do we want shorter seasons to make up for it ? i dont.
what if they use sunday hunting as an exuse to shorten a season, instead of taking a certin weapon back out of it ?

for me there is just to many what if's to support this. and most i know feel the same way, and we are all explaining that in e-mails.

the GC has lost a ton of trust over the past few years.
why should we hand them this, should we give them more matches to play with, just to see if the whole house goes up ?

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do we want deer numbers even lower ? some do , i dont.
Again, SH for deer is a VERY long ways off.

The deer numbers are controlled by the number of tags and time to use them. Tags can be adjusted to keep deer numbers where they are.

Do you remember last year when everyone said there would be an overharvest of bears with the Saturday opener? And how many hunters would be in the woods?

It didn't happen.

Ya know, back in the 70's when the bear population was trending down, they closed bear season for 3 years over the decade, in order to get a handle on the population.

The PGC is fairly conservative over history. They will be again.

PGC Commisoner Delaney said as much and State Rep Staback pretty much, in an interview, said he wants to see small game first.

What does that tell you?

I don't think deer will be included in this for 10 years from today. Not statewide, all seasons.



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Same old fears. Hasn't happened in the other 43 states...won't happen in PA either.
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with all this debate over Sunday hunting going on, i was wondering, how many people oppose Sunday hunting control given to the PGC because we cant trust them?

after what they have done to seasons and start dates just to make legislators happy and to keep them from using economy as a weapon against HR.

can we really trust them with the power of Sunday hunting ?
do we want deer numbers even lower ? some do , i don't.
do we want shorter seasons to make up for it ? i don't.
what if they use sunday hunting as an excuse to shorten a season, instead of taking a certain weapon back out of it ?

for me there is just to many what if's to support this. and most i know feel the same way, and we are all explaining that in e-mails.

the WC has lost a ton of trust over the past few years.
why should we hand them this, should we give them more matches to play with, just to see if the whole house goes up ?
I wouldn't worry about SH & deer hunting in your area--You can bet your last nickel, if there is deer hunting allowed on a Sunday, it will only be in 2A. For some unGodly reason, a few people won't be happy until 2A has less white tail psm than Iraq.

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That is one irrational post! After all the heat the PGC has taken over HR, to even think they would now fold because of the economy make no sense what-so-ever.




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with all this debate over sunday hunting going on, i was wondering, how many people oppose sunday hunting control given to the PGC because we cant trust them?

after what they have done to seasons and start dates just to make legislators happy and to keep them from using economy as a weapon against HR.

can we realy trust them with the power of sunday hunting ?
do we want deer numbers even lower ? some do , i dont.
do we want shorter seasons to make up for it ? i dont.
what if they use sunday hunting as an exuse to shorten a season, instead of taking a certin weapon back out of it ?

for me there is just to many what if's to support this. and most i know feel the same way, and we are all explaining that in e-mails.

the GC has lost a ton of trust over the past few years.
why should we hand them this, should we give them more matches to play with, just to see if the whole house goes up ?
That's a lot of buckshot! Wish I would have posted it. Trust or the lack thereof is it in a nutshell. Maybe a 2nd antlered tag in the future, Sunday use only at a substantial fee of course.

I make no bones about the PGC. I don't trust them. They continually preach for more money and they aren't getting it. IMO, everything they do is finacially oriented until they get the funds they desire.

Make no mistake, their goal is funding. It's easy to catch a coon in a box trap with a big old piece of candy. How many times will hunters be trapped before they learn?

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Learn what, exactly?

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That is one irrational post! After all the heat the PGC has taken over HR, to even think they would now fold because of the economy make no sense what-so-ever.
so they didnt change the bear season because of northern teir economy ?

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The northern tier has lower unemployment rates or equal to many of the southern counties.

Ever hear of Marcellus Shale?

Tioga County has an unemployment rate just 3 tenths of a point higher than Lancaster County!



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do we want deer numbers even lower ? some do , i dont.
Again, SH for deer is a VERY long ways off.

The deer numbers are controlled by the number of tags and time to use them. Tags can be adjusted to keep deer numbers where they are.

Do you remember last year when everyone said there would be an overharvest of bears with the Saturday opener? And how many hunters would be in the woods?

It didn't happen.

Ya know, back in the 70's when the bear population was trending down, they closed bear season for 3 years over the decade, in order to get a handle on the population.

The PGC is fairly conservative over history. They will be again.

PGC Commisoner Delaney said as much and State Rep Staback pretty much, in an interview, said he wants to see small game first.

What does that tell you?

I don't think deer will be included in this for 10 years from today. Not statewide, all seasons.

i see your points, but to think they will loose all the antlerless tag money to control herd numbers either way is crazy. and even if they opened up sundays for stocked road runners, it wont be long untill the outcry is for sunday deer,

with everyone using youths as a tool to get regs changed it wont take long for sunday deer to be on the table.

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