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Semi auto legislation

There is legislation headed to the Governor that would allow the game commission to write regulations that would allow the use of semi auto rifles to hunt. Assuming it becomes law, I wonder what PA hunters would like to see the pgc do with it. Small game ? Predators like fox and coyote? Groundhogs? What about fall turkey or deer and bear for that matter? If big game, should there be a minimum caliber? Right now deer and bear can be hunted with any centerfire. What do you all think?
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The bill also legalizes air rifles.

For next year, I would like to see air rifles legal for all small game, groundhogs, and trapping dispatch. I would like to see semiautomatic rimfire with no magazine restrictions for all small game, groundhogs, and trapping dispatch. I would like to see semiautomatic centerfire legal for furbearers and groundhogs with a 5 round magazine restriction.

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I think wouldn't bother me to see them legal for all game.

Our anti-gun neighbor to the north (ny) allows semi autos even on Sunday, and in the years since rifles have become legal in the area I hunt, I haven't noticed anything different than pa. I hunt there with a bolt action and would continue to hunt with a bolt here for deer most likely.

No legitimate reason for additional caliber restrictions...a .223 is the same whether fired from an ar or rem 700.

I would be interested in a browning buckmark for shooting a few rabbits and maybe a 10/22 for squirrel though...
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I do not support using semi's for any kind of game. It takes away the time honored tradition from hunting (where stealth and marksmanship were learned assets to ensure success. IMO it now becomes just shooting at an animal where a barrage of bullets is thought to be necessary to make up for one's inability to hit a target with consistency. Also, an inarguable fact is the more lead thrown out in the field increases the likelyhood of ricochets or errant rounds downrange due to unintended fire. Lastly, the majority of people in rural areas can accept the volley of fire from a current PA legal firearm, but become distraught when the rate of fire becomes rapid.....just the way it is. So I see more land being posted and more landowner and resident confrontations that the Game Commission will be required to respond to. And the compelling reason seems to be "well every other state does it". Not a reasoned response to effect change in my view.
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I do not support using semi's for any kind of game. It takes away the time honored tradition from hunting (where stealth and marksmanship were learned assets to ensure success.
??? How does a semi auto do that?

A semi auto rifle is no different than any other modern rifle. The person carrying the rifle provides the "stealth" and the "marksmanship".
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Duplicate thread.
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legal in 48 other States
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I do not support using semi's for any kind of game. It takes away the time honored tradition from hunting (where stealth and marksmanship were learned assets to ensure success. IMO it now becomes just shooting at an animal where a barrage of bullets is thought to be necessary to make up for one's inability to hit a target with consistency. Also, an inarguable fact is the more lead thrown out in the field increases the likelyhood of ricochets or errant rounds downrange due to unintended fire. Lastly, the majority of people in rural areas can accept the volley of fire from a current PA legal firearm, but become distraught when the rate of fire becomes rapid.....just the way it is. So I see more land being posted and more landowner and resident confrontations that the Game Commission will be required to respond to. And the compelling reason seems to be "well every other state does it". Not a reasoned response to effect change in my view.
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I don't think semi-autos belong in the deer woods. Right now it is unlawful to load more than 3 rounds in your AR if you're using a PGC range. Since that law is largely ignored, I think any hunting regulation would also be ignored.

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