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disgusting.

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what does this have to do with hunting?

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isnt Wolf anti-gun?

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so, this bill would establish an "over sight" committee that in turn would have authority over the PGC?

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This is a joke, right?

So let me see if I have this right. This "council" will be made up of just average joes who want more deer(just look at the council list), and are going to pick a private company that the PGC will have to pay for........to do what the PGC biologist already get paid to do.

I thought the USP just faded away into the night. I stand corrected.

Every single point in this bill is copied right out of the USP website.
I especially "like" how the "Forest and Wildlife Advisory Service" must be a private, PA based company. Does John Eveland still have his PA based company? WMI, who was used in the last audit is from Washington DC, so this would eliminate them as a choice with this bill. The subtleness isn't so subtle.

Since this is the 1st that I've heard of this bill, I'm figuring they wanted to do this a little quieter than the last time they wanted to change the deer program.
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Very perceptive. This is precisely what USP has been lobbying hard for over the past several months.

And they have the perfect ally in Rep. Maloney, who tends to berate the PGC at every House Game and Fisheries gathering.

There are other House members that will sign-on to this travesty, some of which also have a different axe to grind with PGC: They demand higher PILT fees from SGLs, for their county/local governments/school districts.

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not to go off topic but i believe that every dime the PGC raise from whatever source they have should remain with them to fund the agency.

the PGC should be declared a non profit.

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Some of the same pols currently pounding the PGC over deer and PILT fees, would probably love to be able to snatch-up funds that are now untouchable.

While some yap about combining agencies "like other states", a quick review of many of those states shows that their funding is usually at the mercy of their politicians.

Several states' wildlife agencies have had their funding cut, so the money can be spent on non-wildlife programs.

Remember when Rendell stripped money from the budgets of DEP and DCNR, so he could try to balance his state budgets? Imagine how happy he would've been to also raid the coffers of the PGC back then, were he able to have done so?

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According to the Ethics Commission USP doesn't lobby. And I don't eat too much!
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