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Crossbows are Done

New Bill Introduced for Airbows By Rep Mark Gergely .That will spell the end for crossbows.
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No worries. This bill has been out there for awhile now. Basically it is the same bill as HB263 which legalizes air rifles and allows the PGC to regulate them. HB263 would legalize the "airbow", along with all air rifles, but the PGC would set regulations. The "airbow" bill does not mandate that airbows become legal to hunt with.

Now the "airbow" may become legal where air rifles are legal to use, but not in archery seasons.

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Like when the legalization of crossbows spelled the end of recurve bows, longbows and compound bows?

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post #4 of 89 (permalink) Old 06-03-2016, 08:37 AM
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It is NOT an airBOW...it's an airRIFLE.
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I wondered how long it would take before this weapon would draw attention--well--not long.
I am old enough to remember the transition from self, long, recurve bows into the compound era.
Then we had the cross bow introduction into the season. I have ALWAYS advocated ALL three of these devices--why? Because all three devices use stored energy within the limbs thereby transfering that enegy through the string and into or, onto an arrow shaft. All of these devices--no matter how modern they have gotten through cams, wheels, high end sights, rests, cocked and locked, release aids, etc.--they all still have a set of limbs be it vertical or, horizontal and a string and or buss cable.
This new device named or labeled as "The-Air-Bow" is in fact an air rifle. It used a precharged cylinder storing compressed gas and has NO LIMBS and NO STRING. It is by definition NOT A BOW and by NO means is even remotely a device that should have the name "BOW" attached to it.
In the past with the changing world of archery there were folks on both sides of the fence when the compound bow came along. That same sentiment was present when crossbows were introduced. The thing is folks all of those devices as I have previously stated have "LIMBS" and "STRINGS". They by definition are archery devices. Even though time and technology have made them more modern with all of the high gadgets that we can attach to them--AGAIN I will state-the fact they have a set of limbs and a string defines them as a certain class of weapon.
The introduction of the "Air-Bow" is now where I draw thew line. If they want to allow this weapon in seasons defined as "RIFLE" and use it during our current two week "RIFLE" season it could very well be a little wedge to push for getting it legal in our archery seasons--NOW--I am not crying fowl here.
This may not happen.
In the past I have refrained from drawing a line with weapons. I always tried to advocate sharing and introducing folks to the sport of hunting. I have NEVER advocated for limiting the access and opportunity of others but, now I have drawn the line. I DO NOT want to EVER see this weapon gain ground and momentum to be introduced into our archery seasons and, I honestly believe in the future this could happen. I know--many who will read my post will say--You poor cry baby--your just crying fowl here. I am not--NO limbs--NO string--Its not an air bow--its an air rifle plain and simple.
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In my long winded previous post--I realize that the idea of introducing this weapon into regular seasons is a long stretch of the imagination at this point. This I get--with new ideas and concepts come ideas of introducing such weapons into the mix of our hunting seasons--no matter how far off this may be.
If a guy like me (everyday working class schmuck) is thinking about the ramifications of such a weapon I am sure that others are thinking about it also.
I guess in short my thoughts are simple--this weapon should have a VERY defined name--AIR RIFLE.
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What's the effective range of one of these ?
If it's the same as a crossbow or a compound I am not totally sure where its best fit would be.
Yes it doesn't have a string but at the same time it doesn't have to be drawn in the presence of game and is shouldered just like a crossbow.
It doesn't have limbs like a compound but the vert limbs on a compound really are not much of a factor, especially from a tree stand.
When you combined the advantages of a compound and crossbow it becomes a wash in regards to an airbow.
It still shoots an arrow it just doesn't have a string or limbs and if the effective range is the same as both than should it really not ever be taken into consideration when it comes to archery ?
Not saying I want them to be included, I just don't understand the importance of having to have a string and limbs when the other two clearly have their own advantages.

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What do you mean the limbs aren't much of a factor on a compound?
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What do you mean the limbs aren't much of a factor on a compound?
Limbs have never been much of an issue for me with my compound. I can shoot seated or standing with no issues.

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I guess in short my thoughts are simple--this weapon should have a VERY defined name--AIR RIFLE.
Yep. I consider it an air rifle that shoots arrows, as do most folks.

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