They have been guiding there for several years and are a group of young guys that are aggressive in their hunts. There has been some of the hunting shows from Outdoor Channel that have hunted with them. Not that I need a testimonial to book with them. If goat is taken then option is there to hunt black bear after we get back to lodge. Hunter from last year shot 11 1/2 year old goat. Said he wants to hunt with them again.