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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 02-26-2009, 07:15 PM Thread Starter
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Canada and DUI facts

OK, I know there is already another post with questions regarding this but I just got done calling every person and office I can think of and here are the facts that I found.

1st - A DUI or any offense in the U.S. that is also considered an offense in Canada will get you classified as an inadmisable person. They have the right to, and can turn you away on the spot. Below is a link to the general consulate's website explaining this.

http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/buf...nu_id=63&menu=L

2nd - If you do have a DUI AND IT HAS BEEN LONGER THAN 5 YEARS you can apply for what is called an approval of rehabilitation. This is a document that will cost you roughly $200 dollars that must be submitted and approved before you are allowed to enter. There is no guarantee that it will be aproved. If it isn't, you lose the money. Here is a link with more details.

http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca....aspx?lang=eng

Here is a link to the actual form that needs to be filled out and submitted.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kit...s/IMM1444E.PDF

Here is a link outlining all of the documents required when filling out and submitting the request.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kit...s/IMM5507E.PDF

3rd (ARD)- I just spoke to a local police officer and our clerk of courts. If you have completed an ARD program you may or may not have the DUI expunged from your record. If your lawyer went through the appropriate process to apply for the expungement then your record should be clear. However, if you chose to not pay your lawyer to take care of it or your lawyer never mentioned it to you then you need to request the expungement yourself. Contact your local clerk of courts to get the details. If you are in Lancaster, there is an ARD expungement PDF on the clerk of courts website you can fill out and submit for $34 dollars.


4th - I have spoken with a few individuals who have recently traveled to Canada with DUIs. All of them said they were asked about it with most of them being allowed to pass. The few that weren't were taken inside and asked to complete the "approval of rehabilitation" there on the spot and pay the $200 dollars. A good friend of mine recently did this and said they interogate you on the DUI more than you can imagine. Eventually they'll approve the request and let you through. However, don't take this as gospel. My source is from a few individuals who were there last year on a bear hunt but I do trust their word.

5th - If you try and lie at all about any convictions you will 99.9% of the time be turned away.


Here are a couple links and sites you may find useful on the matter. Please note that if you call the consulate as I did, they will refer you a lot to their website. Also, the consulates "visa" department does not accept phonecalls of any kind.

Canada consulate - Buffalo NY 1-716-858-9501
http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca....aspx?lang=eng

Canadian consulate general - NY, NY 1-212-596-1628


Canada border services agency

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/menu-eng.html

phone number - 1-204-983-3500 or 1-506-636-5064


Sorry for the new post but I didn't want this getting lost as I spent many days and hours on the phone gathering some of this and wanted to try and keep it all in one spot. You may even want to sticky it based on the hits the other thread got.

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post #2 of 36 (permalink) Old 02-28-2009, 04:22 PM
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Re: Canada and DUI facts

Thank you.
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Good work!

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Awesome research. This deserves a sticky at the top of the forum!

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Great info, hope I never have to use it.

Also individual customs agents, as you kind of alude to, will treat you different. It's human nature I guess. I had an interesting experience once about ten years ago.

I traveled to Toronto via comercial plane. At the toronto airport I approached customs, which was nearly empty due to realy bad winter weather in the states. I picked out the cute little agent and approached her desk. I was wearing a camo hat and a UBP camo T-shirt. She coldly looked over my documents, pre-911 by the way, and coldly began asking what I planned to do in Canada. She then asked about firearms and if I planned on hunting during my visit. I replied no, but that I'd love to come back up sometime to hunt as the hunting in Canada can be phenominal. Wrong thing to say. She stated that she "deplored Americans who come to Canada to kill thier animals". She looked for reasons to turn me away, but fortunately couldn't find any.

Then there was the time I went through customs at S. St. Marie n the way to an archery bear hunt. We went through at about 6:00 AM nad hte agent just lookded up from his newspaper and inquired if was had guns. We said just bows. Move along. Felt like we were disturbing his quiet time.
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One question on this, if you went through A.R.D and had your records expunched, are you clear?? Do you know?? I got a D.U.I. 2 years ago and have been under the impression I can't go to Canada but I also have a letter from the clerk of courts saying my records are expunched. I also know that on my driving record my D.U.I is there for 7 years.
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One thing to note is that a first time offense in Jersey is just a moving violation.
I think you would slide if this is the case.
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One question on this, if you went through A.R.D and had your records expunched, are you clear?? Do you know?? I got a D.U.I. 2 years ago and have been under the impression I can't go to Canada but I also have a letter from the clerk of courts saying my records are expunched. I also know that on my driving record my D.U.I is there for 7 years.
You'd be surprised about how little of a persons record is actually recorded even without it being expunged. My father has a rap sheet a mile long in 3 or 4 different states and whenever he has a back ground check only a felony or two pops up and maybe a few misdemeanors. I know that sounds like a lot but if you knew how much trouble he has been in his entire life you would see how little that actually is. He has been in jail more than he has been out.
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Thats funny that not being able to go to Canada might be the most effective punishment to deter drunk drivers. They should change the slogan: "DUI You cant afford it" to "DUI, you might not be able to go to Canada" and see if it works.
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