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View Poll Results: Do You Support the Saturday Rifle Opener?
YES! 199 54.08%
NO! 169 45.92%
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post #71 of 97 (permalink) Old 04-17-2019, 04:02 PM
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This is known as probability sampling. Meaning if all the licensed hunters were surveyed the probability of it being 65% against the opener is 95 percent accurate or higher. This a cost effective way to conduct a survey.
That holds true if the sampling method is valid.
The PGC has a history of using a pure random sampling without any level of stratification or checks to ensure the sample isn't over-indexed across key demographic or geographic indicators. (Age, location, tenure, etc)
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Really, if you don't like the idea of hunting on the Saturday opener, and want Monday to be your openre, then DON'T HUNT ON THE SATURDAY OPENER! There, that wasn't soo hard now, was it?
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That holds true if the sampling method is valid.
The PGC has a history of using a pure random sampling without any level of stratification or checks to ensure the sample isn't over-indexed across key demographic or geographic indicators. (Age, location, tenure, etc)
Are you talking about the deer harvest??

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Really, if you don't like the idea of hunting on the Saturday opener, and want Monday to be your openre, then DON'T HUNT ON THE SATURDAY OPENER! There, that wasn't soo hard now, was it?
If you wait until Monday you are not hunting "THE Opening Day."

Some people don't seem to understand that fact the same as others don't understand why others don't just wait until that first Saturday of the season to start their hunting if they want to start on a Saturday.

The fact is "THE" opening day is special. If you miss "THE " opening day then you really have missed a special part of "THE" deer season. There is a difference between hunting "THE" opening day than just hunt "A" day of deer season.

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Really, if you don't like the idea of hunting on the Saturday opener, and want Monday to be your openre, then DON'T HUNT ON THE SATURDAY OPENER! There, that wasn't soo hard now, was it?
If you wait until Monday you are not hunting "THE Opening Day."

Some people don't seem to understand that fact the same as others don't understand why others don't just wait until that first Saturday of the season to start their hunting if they want to start on a Saturday.

The fact is "THE" opening day is special. If you miss "THE " opening day then you really have missed a special part of the der season. There is a difference between hunting "THE" opening day than just hunt "A" day of deer season.

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This is known as probability sampling. Meaning if all the licensed hunters were surveyed the probability of it being 65% against the opener is 95 percent accurate or higher. This a cost effective way to conduct a survey.

Just to play the devil's advocate, based on the 309 answers to this poll: the probability of it being 53% for the opener is 90% accurate or higher.
I know I know, membership on here is not a true probability sampling.
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You can't although I think they know it but won't admit it because they know there was no reason to change the traditional opener other than to change it.
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Just to play the devil's advocate, based on the 309 answers to this poll: the probability of it being 53% for the opener is 90% accurate or higher.
I know I know, membership on here is not a true probability sampling.
Funny how the poll changed after the vote.
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Are you talking about the deer harvest??
No, just their method of surveying.
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Just to play the devil's advocate, based on the 309 answers to this poll: the probability of it being 53% for the opener is 90% accurate or higher. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.huntingpa.com/forums/images/Huntingpa_toucan/smilies/tango_face_devil.png[/IMG]
I know I know, membership on here is not a true probability sampling.
Funny how the poll changed after the vote.
funnier how the “validity” of the poll changed after the vote!
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