Well my son did it again. He connected on this 4 point last night about 6:30 or so. This guy slipped in at about 15 yards or so and I coached him to wait for a broadside shot. His patience paid off and made good of the opportunity. He only ran 35 yards or so. My son thinks he may never get to shoot anything with a rifle because he has filled his buck tag in archery season 4 of 5 years he has hunted. I would have never thought the we would both have filled our buck tags in the first week of archery from the same woods.