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PGC "The Devils Weapon"

The Devilís Weapon?
Posted: October 1, 2015

Itís no secret that the use of crossbows is frowned upon by vertical bow hunters. Do they (and their users) deserve a bad rap?
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If you want to tick off a bow hunter, suggest that crossbows and vertical bows are essentially the same. If you want to lose a friend, ask a traditional bow hunter what the big deal is over crossbows.

To a wildlife manager, the method by which a deer is harvested is irrelevant really. The important thing is a deer was harvested. However, the method by which a deer is harvested is of the utmost importance to the hunter. Each requires a skill set unique to its function.

Many hunters have a favorite and choose to specialize in that method. Most methods have their own season. Muzzleloader, firearms, flintlock, and archery Ė all have designated days on the calendar. All except crossbows.

Crossbows are a bit like the redheaded stepchild of the hunting world. Those with the strongest feelings against them are, of course, archery hunters. But are crossbows really that different? And when I say crossbows, I really mean crossbow hunters.

Well, there is one way to find out. Ask!

The short answer is crossbow hunters are different but not in the ways you might expect. One difference is age. The average crossbow hunter is 10 years older than the average vertical bow hunter (52 years old vs 42 years old) with 50% of them being over 55 years of age (as compared to only 19% of vertical bow hunters).

It appears that crossbows have re-opened the door to archery season for many hunters. Sixty-five percent of crossbow hunters have returned to archery hunting because of the crossbow. That doesnít sound like such a bad thing.

Crossbow hunters are actually very similar to vertical bow hunters in many ways too. Over 85% of each group hunted during the firearms season; <span style="font-weight: bold">the same percentage harvested a buck during archery season (16% of crossbow hunters, 17% of vertical bow hunters); </span>the same percentage harvested 2 or more antlerless deer with a bow in one season (5% for crossbow hunters, 4 % for vertical bow hunters); and the same percentage say they have the same or more interest in deer hunting over the last 5 years (67% for crossbow hunters, 70% for vertical bow hunters).

The #1 reason listed for those with more interest in deer hunting for both groups: Time to hunt!

Maybe crossbow hunters arenít that different after all. Looking closer, maybe crossbows arenít spawned from the fires of [censored].

Maybe, just maybe, they are the savior of a hunting tradition lost to some as the years march on. Maybe now retirement is only job-related and not hunting-related. Maybe that father of 3 gets to spend more time in the woods reconnecting with his youth while still being able to foster the next generation of hunters.

For some, maybe crossbows are a gift from heaven.

-Jeannine Fleegle, biologist

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Just some info from the PGC regarding crossbow use in Pa.

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Good read.

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Not a bad read but at the same time I am not sure what purpose the article actually serves ?

I think that inclusion has come a long way in the past 5 years or so, so is this statement really necessary ?

<span style="color: #FF0000">Itís no secret that the use of crossbows is frowned upon by vertical bow hunters. Do they (and their users) deserve a bad rap?</span>

Kind of fans the flames of the "elitist" mentality all over again in my eyes and lumps all verticle hunters in the same category.

Anyhow, good luck guys. Really looking forward to reading the success threads this season.

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Not a bad read but at the same time I am not sure what purpose the article actually serves ?

I think that inclusion has come a long way in the past 5 years or so, so is this statement really necessary ?

Itís no secret that the use of crossbows is frowned upon by vertical bow hunters. Do they (and their users) deserve a bad rap?
Its not needed or necessary, I agree. We have come a long way in a few years and statements like that only take away from the positives. The meat of the article is a good read though.

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Thanks for the post. Since I never felt like I had the time to commit to traditional style archery hunting, and definitely lacked the accuracy to feel comfortable shooting a deer, to participate in archery hunting was something I put on my TO DO list for when I retired.
This year I purchased a crossbow and with the limited amount of practice I have squeezed in out back I feel very confident at taking a good, ethical shot at a deer 35 yards out.
If I like it fine, if not it is only a different kind of hunting and I still have my old true rifle season to fall back on.
This will add weeks of opportunity both early and after Christmas to hunt.

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I had a buddy compare crossbow inclusion to gay marriage. A lot of similarities!

I hunt with both. When it becomes too hard to use my compound in late season, I grab the crossbow.

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Wow who did they poll on that 1. Out of 5 of us Im the only compound user. The other 4 say crossbows are easier and they don't have time to practice like with compound or longbow.They must have been in the 65%. My bud will shoot bullseyes all day long at 50 yds and he tells you its easier.
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I gave up archery when the PGC started allowing them "easy button" compound bows. Bows with training wheels,,,,,,, who da thought they would ever be legalized.

Imagine the statistics of the numbers of older hunters in the woods that would not be there but for the easier to use compounds. And releases? OMG. you can't tell a bow hunter by callouses on the fingers anymore. Bet the average age of compound hunters is higher than stick bow hunters.

So crossbows should get their own dates? Well not before atlatls, bolos and spears get theirs.
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