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Why not 4 on one side state wide?

I hunt 2C and hate seeing all of the 1.5 yr old 6 points being taken each year. What is the reasoning behind some units still being 3 points to a side. If I could change one thing, it would be this! I see no difference between killing a little y buck without brow tines versus one with.
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Re: Why not 4 on one side state wide?

Because it is not necessary. If you want to hold out for that, knock yourself out. Don't try to push your wants and antler infatuation on everyone else.




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Re: Why not 4 on one side state wide?

I'm not trying to push it on everyone else. It's just a simple question. Is there really a difference if we're going to have an A/R across the state? Why not try to protect most of the 1.5 yr old deer?
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Re: Why not 4 on one side state wide?

We don't even have a 4 pt rule where it used to be, it is now 3 on top.




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Re: Why not 4 on one side state wide?

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Because it is not necessary. If you want to hold out for that, knock yourself out. Don't try to push your wants and antler infatuation on everyone else.
Thank you for such an insightful and elioquent comment. We are all better people for having read such a great masterpiece.

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Because it is not necessary. If you want to hold out for that, knock yourself out. Don't try to push your wants and antler infatuation on everyone else.
Bingo!!!...
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Re: Why not 4 on one side state wide?

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I hunt 2C and hate seeing all of the 1.5 yr old 6 points being taken each year. What is the reasoning behind some units still being 3 points to a side. If I could change one thing, it would be this! I see no difference between killing a little y buck without brow tines versus one with.
the reason that it was never 4 points statewide is because it wasnt needed as johnS said, and the herd is obviously different in every part of the state. HR didnt need AR as much to be "sold" to the hunters as it did in the 4 point to a side areas. now that the herd is gettin put "in check", in the previously 4 point to a side (which are now 3 up top), there is a less of a need to "sell" HR. Other states have done the same thing. some used antler spread as the use of their restrictions, but IMHO that isnt ideal for state programs and would not fit into the "PA ways of hunting". jump shooting, deer drives, etc.

the only reason AR assists with making lager bucks is that it sold the HR point to hunters and they were happy to kill more doe, which in turn lowered deer population, bettered the habitat, allowed more forage and more nutritious forage for that matter for the remaining deer. more forage and a better habitat for deer make a healthier herd and a healthier herd = bigger buck.
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Re: Why not 4 on one side state wide?

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Because it is not necessary. If you want to hold out for that, knock yourself out. Don't try to push your wants and antler infatuation on everyone else.
That is probably the only statement you have ever made that I 100% agree with.........people are so much infatuated with antlers that it is going to be the ruination of the sport of hunting......

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Re: Why not 4 on one side state wide?

let me know how much different the horns taste when there is four on a side. My question for you is what do you do about the 3.5 year old buck that are giant spikes or ugly 4 points with bad genetics that get the chance to reproduce
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let me know how much different the horns taste when there is four on a side. My question for you is what do you do about the 3.5 year old buck that are giant spikes or ugly 4 points with bad genetics that get the chance to reproduce
If I was that concerned with meat, I would just shoot a doe. I enjoy shooting a buck, but I love the challenge of shooting an older mature buck that the majority of the time has a larger rack and more point as most hunters do. I can't say I've ever seen any of the bucks you described in my 15 years of hunting, so that tells you how rare they are, at least where I hunt. So if a 3.5 year old spike gets to reproduce, oh well. There are 1.5 yr old spikes that get to reproduce.
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