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Just Some Numbers -2G

On page 59 of the 2012-13 PGC digest it states: <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">“4% - The harvest rate of adult females on public lands in WMU 2G. In other words, for every 100 adult females on public lands prior to hunting seasons, 4 of them were harvested by hunters”.</span></span>

I find that hard to believe and if true, WMU 2G forests will never recover with such a small harvest. With this in mind, does ONE week doe season make any sense???
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Come on Freytown, that was reported here YEARS ago. get with the program. LOL



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I find that hard to believe and if true, WMU 2G forests will never recover with such a small harvest. With this in mind, does ONE week doe season make any sense???
I know the biologists would like to go back to 2 weeks, and the Commissioners pretty much want that as well, IIRC.



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Depends what the total doe population is.Obviously if it's low 4% might not be bad.In my opinion once the herd is brought down to a certain level predators have more of an impact.

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Depends what the total doe population is.Obviously if it's low 4% might not be bad.In my opinion once the herd is brought down to a certain level predators have more of an impact.
I agree
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Depends what the total doe population is.Obviously if it's low 4% might not be bad.In my opinion once the herd is brought down to a certain level predators have more of an impact.
I agree
maybe in the short term but the predator population will quickly stabilize with the population of their prey

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.In my opinion once the herd is brought down to a certain level predators have more of an impact.
That was the plan all along. Waugh!

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maybe in the short term but the predator population will quickly stabilize with the population of their prey
Quickly is a tricky word when used as you just used it.

The predators will reduce reproduction once the food supply is reduced. However once born they don't get un born. Some will move on but many will roam the same areas and get better at finding the less food or get dead. Until then the impact will limit herd recruitment even as reproduction per Doe increases.

Quickly can mean 10 years or more. However you are correct IMHO about the cycle moving to the low side once the food is reduced.

Seems like a double edged sword. Deer reproduction increases with the increased habitat growth and less eating from the same plate. But that will only prolong the high food supply for the predators. Waugh!

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In other words, for every 100 adult females on public lands prior to hunting seasons, 4 of them were harvested by hunters”.
Are you sure that statement is correct? Could it mean something else? Waugh!

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I don't think any of the predators in Pa rely on the whitetail deer (including fawns) for survival. Winter kills during extreme winters conditions help the predators but has no bearing on their survival. Birds and rodents are just to plentiful.
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