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post #1 of 100 (permalink) Old 05-06-2012, 01:57 PM Thread Starter
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Former USP Leader - If I Ran The Deer Program

<span style="font-style: italic">Greg Levengood, of Boyertown, is one of the longest standing critics of deer management by the Pennsylvania Game Commission. Until the past few years, when opposing voices like his fell off in general at commission meetings, he had been a regular there since the late 1990s. From 2004-08 he was chairman of the board of directors of the Unified Sportsmen of Pennsylvania, consistently opposed to the handling of deer management by the commission.

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Q: If you had complete authority to make all deer management decisions for Pennsylvania, what would you do with the deer management program?

A: That would be like a dream come true. I would call a meeting and say the first issue we are going to address is deer management because it is the most important and contentious issue that the Game Commission has. From now on we're going to have a deer management plan that will be completely transparent with full disclosure. We're going to make this real simple so that everyone can understand, farmers, hunters, the general public, even outdoor writers.

I want to know three things. No. 1: ..............


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post #2 of 100 (permalink) Old 05-06-2012, 02:18 PM
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Managing the deer for the forest or managing the forest for the deer is their a difference?

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post #3 of 100 (permalink) Old 05-06-2012, 05:25 PM
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If you can't see the forest through the trees, you can bet your butt there is a deer in there somewhere.

The man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic. ~Roosevelt
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post #4 of 100 (permalink) Old 05-06-2012, 07:41 PM
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Hmmm, interesting. Sounds like Greg is now for what the USP was once against? Some will never be satisfied unless they are in charge I guess.
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Nah, sounds to me like he's still stuck on the same old "We <span style="font-style: italic">should</span> have more deer" mantra that Col. Slinsky tutored him on, about 12 years ago?

Nothing much has changed. Those who reveled in seeing lots of deer on opening days by the late 1990s, still demand to see more deer than they've been seeing since HR reduced deer numbers in many areas.

The only things that have changed with this bunch, is their constant search for some new ways to demand the same thing: More deer. There are already more deer in many areas where habitats have improved.

There are still fewer deer in many other areas, for a variety of reasons: Continuing poor habitats; Concentrations of hunters, due to access or prefered hunting spots, etc.

Nothing much ever really changes here in PA when it comes to deer hunter complaints. Consider that some were complaining about "no deer" back when our herd numbers peaked and that's really about all one needs to understand.

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Re: Former USP Leader - If I Ran The Deer Program

Thanks for posting Bluetick, I haven't followed this USP thing very closely, but after reading the post and reading the posters on here over the years, it seems my suspicions were right. The truth probably is somewhere in the middle.
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The truth is a scarce commodity, and not really a desirable one anyway. If the truth is not what one wants it to be it is obviously not the truth and the truth must lie somewhere else. Did I sumarize that fairly well for you?
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Spin is the name of the game.Politicians have raised it to an art form over the past few decades.
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Agreed, Lonzo. Plenty of it exists outside of politics, but they are the masters of the game.
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Re: Former USP Leader - If I Ran The Deer Program

These guys don't get it that deer, and deer hunting, is NOT THE most important thing going on in the state, nor is it a right, it's a privilege. It already has been removed as a legal activity in some areas, and replaced with culling. They continually act like they are owed something. Continually supporting a large deer herd for a few weeks of recreation/yr. is ridiculous. I've been waiting for the Farm Bureau to sue the State over feeding all these deer by landowners - not encouraging it at all, but curious as to when some lawyer would get on it.

Sounds to me like he just needed to get back into the spotlight - not even sure what he's saying there. And exactly where,if he was the King, would he come up with the funding for another "inventory" as he calls it, when the gov't is largely broke?? Real leader material there.....nice tie tho!
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