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2012 Antlerless Deer Allocation Worksheets

These are the work sheets the GC BOC used to determine the antlerless allocations this year.:


http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/ser...information_pdf

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Re: 2012 Antlerless Deer Allocation Worksheets

Coondawg, I note that 2C allocation was reduced from 58,000 to 50,000. Curious as to whether or not you personally think it was warranted since you hunt in that WMU.
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Re: 2012 Antlerless Deer Allocation Worksheets

Quick glance at 2G shows deer health has not changed. Still reflecting .33 fawns per Doe.

Someone help explain how this could be if AR improved the breeding as much as some have claimed. Waugh!

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Re: 2012 Antlerless Deer Allocation Worksheets

The explanation is the health of the coyotes and bear is higher than the deers. Therefore .33 fawns per doe.

Or in terms for those having a hard time with that concept, 1 fawn out of 3 doe doesn't get eaten.

The deer didn't disappear.... the 250,000 guys who used to walk around and make the deer move did.
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Re: 2012 Antlerless Deer Allocation Worksheets

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The explanation is the health of the coyotes and bear is higher than the deers. Therefore .33 fawns per doe.

Or in terms for those having a hard time with that concept, 1 fawn out of 3 doe doesn't get eaten.
Or maybe it is that just one doe out of three gets enough food through the winter and spring to produce a fawn that doesn’t die of malnutrition with hours of being born.

In fact based on scientific studies that is more likely than predators are eating them all.

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Re: 2012 Antlerless Deer Allocation Worksheets

Interesting.

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Or maybe all the doe are still not being successfully bred. Just a thought.

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Re: 2012 Antlerless Deer Allocation Worksheets

According to the numbers 2D has 91 deer per forested sq mile. Really? Things that make me roll my eyeballs.
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Re: 2012 Antlerless Deer Allocation Worksheets

I just looked at the page. Where does it say 2D has 91 deer per forested square mile? How did you derive that number?
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I just looked at the page. Where does it say 2D has 91 deer per forested square mile? How did you derive that number?
I think he took the figure they gave of 2486 sq miles and multiplied by the percent of forest of 60% to get the forested sq miles of 1491. I would guess he took the population of 136,155 divided by 1491 sq miles to get 91 deer per sq mile.

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