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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 12-14-2011, 10:09 PM Thread Starter
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Foreat habitat health 2110-2010

After a decade of decimating the deer herd

1A +4%
1B +4%
2A -14%
2B NO DATA
2C -2%
2D -8%
2E -9%
2F +1%
2G +2%
3A -8%
3B +8%
3C +5%
3D -1%
4A -2%
4B -3%
4C -3%
4D -4%
4E -4%
5A -7%
5B -21%
5C NO DATA
5D NO DATA
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post #2 of 25 (permalink) Old 12-14-2011, 10:57 PM
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Re: Foreat habitat health 2110-2010

WEll, I can tell you that the clearcuts that were done on the property I lease in 3A, back in 2003, are doing fairly well, since the reduction. Before that, they were being eaten to the ground.

Areas where clearcuts had failed, but DCNR left some seed trees, in 3A, the cuts are now coming back, with oak, as they should have back in the 1980's

So, what I'm seeing, on the ground, on state lands and private, isn't what is in that data.

BTW, you use the term decimated, yet, you claim to see how many bucks per year where you hunt? Never sounded decimated in your area.



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Re: Foreat habitat health 2110-2010

Would really help if everyone would post a link to the data they are displaying. Let everyone have a look see at what your talking about.

Is your position a short term gain - or a long term loss? Separate the issues.
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post #4 of 25 (permalink) Old 12-15-2011, 12:34 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Foreat habitat health 2110-2010

Bluetick It's from the 2011-12 annual deer population assessments.
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post #5 of 25 (permalink) Old 12-15-2011, 12:35 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Foreat habitat health 2110-2010

Yes and we plan on keeping it that way!!!
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post #6 of 25 (permalink) Old 12-15-2011, 01:11 AM
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Re: Foreat habitat health 2110-2010

The link for everyone else to view the data:

http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/ser...information_pdf


Real hard to have a inclusive discussion if some can't find the entire data set.

Is your position a short term gain - or a long term loss? Separate the issues.
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post #7 of 25 (permalink) Old 12-15-2011, 01:24 AM
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Re: Foreat habitat health 2110-2010

Corresponding information:

What Is A Healthy Forest

Is your position a short term gain - or a long term loss? Separate the issues.
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post #8 of 25 (permalink) Old 12-15-2011, 10:01 AM
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Re: Foreat habitat health 2110-2010

These are wonderful figures, but what point are you trying to make?
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post #9 of 25 (permalink) Old 12-15-2011, 12:01 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Foreat habitat health 2110-2010

The point is greatly reducing (is that more palatable Dutch) the herd has not been the silver bullet the gameless com. and all the sheeple were touting in the beginning, next tine anyone goes off about armchair biologists, just look at the results of the pros.
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post #10 of 25 (permalink) Old 12-15-2011, 01:52 PM
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Re: Foreat habitat health 2110-2010

First of all,the forest assessments are a joke based soley on the small number of plots in each WMU.There is no doubt that the forests are are starting to recover in just about every single area I've been to.Some are slower to recover than others but the benefit of less deer is evident.
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