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post #141 of 149 (permalink) Old 10-14-2016, 02:55 PM
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Re: Predators & Fawns Article

Read the post I commented on, He said recently which is summer/early fall. Not saying they can't kill a sick or injured adult anytime the opportunity arises but if you have a study that states otherwise, instead of laughing, please show so everyone can be educated.
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I suppose you would need to see it for your self. A 28 lb coyote took down a 200 lb mule deer buck solo. Ham strung him, this was viewed by helicopter by gov agents doing coyote control. 2 coyotes decide its venison tonight and it is. Sure they prey much more on smaller game but, to say a fawn is too big or fast for coyotes is humorous to me. Sorry no offense intended. I have opened way to many coyote stomachs packed with deer suet to think otherwise.

One day I opened 7 stomachs, yep packed with deer suet. Rifle season was weeks away and hard to believe roadkill from that remote location.

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I am gonna have to go with the Penn State research rather then one unique video. As far as newborn fawns go I do have questions as to why Penn States research shows less fawn predation then most other research by other states. Not saying they are wrong, just questioning why that is.
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I am gonna have to go with the Penn State research rather then one unique video. As far as newborn fawns go I do have questions as to why Penn States research shows less fawn predation then most other research by other states. Not saying they are wrong, just questioning why that is.

You can log onto the Deer Forest Blog and ask them any questions you have.

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All they need is hunger and a buddy. Coyotes have little problem, much of the time, feeding themselves. Opportunistic is how I would describe thier feeding. Next round of mass opportunity will follow the rut when some bucks are run down further than anytime of the year. When coyotes are in abundance and the opportunity arises they eat venison.

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Opportunistic and economics for sure. Spending more energy to get food than you take in means death to most animals. The next round of mass opportunity is going on right now in the south. Persimmons are loaded up and the deer and coyotes are hitting them all day and night long. We have trail camera photos of coyotes and deer feeding on persimmons in the same field at the same time. I picked up over 50 piles of coyote scat this past weekend with all but about 3 piles full of persimmon seeds. 2 piles had what looked to be fawn bones likely because the rut where we were at occurs in mid to late January and fawns are dropped in late July though August. Most scat didn't have any fur in it at all. This will change this coming week as archery deer season just started in Alabama. This should be a pretty good trapping season.
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I picked up over 50 piles of coyote scat this past weekend with all but about 3 piles full of persimmon seeds. 2 piles had what looked to be fawn bones likely because the rut where we were at occurs in mid to late January and fawns are dropped in late July though August. Most scat didn't have any fur in it at all.
Here in 5C, my neighbor trapped the first coyote that I know of in the area last year.

As a result, this year I picked up 0 coyote turds, and 0 had either persimmon, apples, or peaches. While the remaining 0 had deer hair, and my hands stayed clean too!

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What I can tell you is that while I was collecting the breeding and reproductive rate data for Elk County there was a significant difference in the number of adult does being bred pre-antler restrictions to the same data post antler restrictions.
Don't forget the numbers game being played. the Doe were also reduced. HR had more impact than allowing buck to get older. HR was the fix and AR was the carrot to get us to do what had to be done. JMHO Waugh!

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It was a question, not a statement, sir.

Wiz appears to be finding fault with your fawn survey method itself, before we even get to your overlay practice of curiously absent "winter conditions" index
Nice play. when getting beat up make your enemy enemy of each other and than you get left alone.
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