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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 05-23-2016, 02:49 PM Thread Starter
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Deer Management...

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Many on here receive this update and this one seemed pretty important.
The PH of the soils tested is waayy low and prohibits both plant and tree growth. If we are gonna manage deer in the future these findings could have a big impact on the future of the NC mountains.
I'm just looking for thoughts from posters on if these findings mean alot to you?
Could the soil PH cause the deer herd to be very low in these regions?

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If the regeneration is poor,do to poor soils then there will be less food and less deer.
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Ph of 7.0 is neutral. Look how dreadfully low the ph is the areas tested.


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Re: Deer Management...

Although beautiful in the Spring the Mountain Laurel grows best in truly acidic soil. Not good stuff for the deer.


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Yep,in areas with poor growing conditions there will be less food available for deer and no legitimate reason to increase deer numbers.In these parts,they used to fence the deer out and the regeneration would take off.Now we have less deer and there's no need to fence.That certainly isn't the case everywhere.

Here's one for the team.Beech is less tolerant to acidic soils than oak is.Why does beech quickly take over some areas and the oak doesn't?
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And Hay Scented Ferns are prolific at low PH.


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Well,we have lot's of laurel and hay scented ferns up here as well.However,if you keep the deer at bay,you get oak regeneration.
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Those PH levels border on the disastrous. A ph of 5 is 10x more acidic then a PH of 6, a PH of 4 is 100x more acidic.
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In areas of continuous forest, with no agriculture for miles around, it would appear that the PH of the soil has affected what grows there.
For many years now I was under the impression that the over abundant deer herd was the reason for nothing worth while growing.

You can throw out the theory of the biological carrying capacity can be adjusted by shooting more deer and it'll give more deer.
The PH of the soil is looking more like the only thing affecting the deer numbers.

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"This would suggest that soil, not deer's discriminating and selective palate, as the problem."

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