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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-01-2014, 09:57 PM Thread Starter
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As soon as you open the Game Commissions web page the DMA2 is posted at the top of the page, if you click on it, this is what it states....

DMA2 ANTLERLESS DEER PERMIT PROGRAM
The Commission will make 13,000 permits available to eligible individuals to allow the harvest of antlerless deer in Disease Management Area 2 (DMA2) during the 2014/2015 hunting license/permit year.

OK, so this is a way to help stave off any wide spread CWD problems in our deer herd and hopefully not hit the elk herd. I fully agree with any methods they deem appropriate to limit the disease.

My question is, why antlerless only?

As far as I know, CWD does not affect just antlerless deer. I believe these permits should go for bucks of any size as well.

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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-03-2014, 03:35 AM
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Interesting, I remember the day when my county only had 6000 doe permits. Now you see how many there is out there, but it never will be a second buck.
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Perhaps the PGC is issueing these permits not just to control CWD, but also with the intention of adjusting the Buck/Doe ratio which may not be optimal at this time?

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post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-03-2014, 03:33 PM
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I have been in to it pretty deep since I hunt and own property in 4A of which is cwd-2. There intent is reduce for control of cwd, weather that theory works I cant say. Another thing unit 4A went to a split season for first time this year. Doing so they kept the same allocation as previous years where most of times units going to split season allocated more. Maybe this could be pat of it also. Its going to be a pita in some ways for non removing some parts out of unit.
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The wild deer most likely to move CWD to new areas will be young <span style="text-decoration: underline">buck</span> as they disperse 10ís of miles from their motherís home range. FARTHER than any other deer in the herd.

PAGC knows this risk but will never get rid of AR or allow multiple buck to be taken by hunters! Big mistake.

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post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-04-2014, 06:40 PM
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You have a new commissioner for the DMA2 area that still wants more deer in WMU 4A. He stood tall in his slashing of the allocation even as 4A was going to split concurrent.


The GC has watched and learned from other states how total elimination or attempted elimination of a deer herd plays out. They aren't doing that here. In a wild herd it just does not work. The spread of the disease can be slowed by reducing the number of deer, but the disease can not be eliminated.

Symptoms of infection can take up to 5 years to show. The prions can last in the soil for 18 to 20 years.

Is your position a short term gain - or a long term loss? Separate the issues.
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post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-05-2014, 02:36 AM
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I was wondering why they don't or maybe im missing it of how many of the special CWD-2 tags are still available?
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My question is, why antlerless only?
Same reason as for HR. Hunters will accept it. No need making the ones who will carry out the task angy. Waugh!

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The wild deer most likely to move CWD to new areas will be young buck as they disperse 10ís of miles from their motherís home range. FARTHER than any other deer in the herd.
You're correct, but at the time these deer are dispersing, they are usually still button bucks, which makes them legal antlerless deer.

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Re: DMA2

I live in 4A and I've got quite a few questions as to why the PGC has taken this route as well. Why just does, why not just an extra "deer" tag so to speak instead, shoot a buck or a doe. How will eliminating more does do anything, how many does will a buck breed in a year? If a buck is infected with CWD, can he pass it on when he breeds a doe, if so, if there are less does in a area, a buck will travel further to find does to breed, hence new areas infected? Also, if symptoms typically don't show up till 4-5 years, why increase the kill, how many deer in 4A live to even be that age, I don't think too many. It just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense that they changed allocations on does , made it a split season, yet then came back and offer 13K DMA tags, that can be used anytime of the season. In my opinion this just doesn't make much sense.

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