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Interesting tidbits about PSU/Sandusky/Freeh

One of the problems with this whole mess is that no one is following the case from beginning to end and connecting the dots. Everyone, including the NCAA and Board of Trustees, acted out of haste and emotion.

Here is what I found most interesting about this whole case.

Jerry Sandusky was found not guilty on 3 charges: rape of Victim 2 and indecent assault on Victims 5 and 8. Guess which 2 assaults acutally had an eye witness to the act? The assaults on Victim 2, the boy assistant coach Mike McQueary said he saw being raped, and Victim 8, which was witnessed by a Penn State janitor. He was also aquitted on charges of victim 5, who testified in court. This much is fact.

What got me thinking is that if a jury didn't find enough evidence to convict him on all of these charges, how in the world was Joe Paterno supposed to know what was going on? Yeah, he heard rumor and yeah, he knew there was an investigation. But if a lawyer, who is trained to prosecute based on evidence couldn't convince a jury, why was Joe supposed to know? He was a football coach for heavens sake. <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">Trained</span></span> law enforcement officers and <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">trained</span></span> child welfare workers and <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">trained</span></span> DA's couldn't stop this monster years ago. Why was it Joe's responsibility? Because he was a prominent figure? Because he had power?

Granted, I'll probably get blasted for this, but I firmly believe that Joe withheld information because he didn't have enough. If he would have come out and called for Jerry's head, based on what little he knew about what was going on, people would have thought he was nuts. A lawyer couldn't convince a jury that McQueary's testimony was fact, so how was Joe supposed to decifer it. He was not a lawyer, but a football coach.

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Re: Interesting tidbits about PSU/Sandusky/Freeh

Good points. As is most often the case, what we think we know is not the truth.

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Re: Interesting tidbits about PSU/Sandusky/Freeh

Even if he had any minor amount of information, he should have passed it along to the proper authorities. Let the proper authorities do an investigation and file charges if they felt something was wrong.

If Paterno would have done that, he would have moved all liability from himself. Even if he caught wind of it being something remotely insignificant, he should have reported it.

The concern would have always been, if nothing actually happen with Sandusky, Sanduskys carrear would have been ruined. However, if Sandusky did do anything, then Paterno was sitting on information that the proper authorities could used to investigate Sandusky (like they did) and find he was a henious monster.

Paterno should have just reported ANYTHING he knew to the <span style="text-decoration: underline">child welfare/state police</span> and been done. Then this whole Paterno deal would not have happened.
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Even if he had any minor amount of information, he should have passed it along to the proper authorities. Let the proper authorities do an investigation and file charges if they felt something was wrong.
Have you followed this case at all? Paterno did exactly was University policy required him to do. He reported it to his superiors in Curley, Shultz and Spanier. It was not Joe's job to go on a witch hunt. Especially since he had so little information.

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Re: Interesting tidbits about PSU/Sandusky/Freeh

Here's a good one you here nothing about on the news.

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Re: Interesting tidbits about PSU/Sandusky/Freeh

If Joe knew more than what he said he did then he really is a monster as is anyone else that helped in the supposed cover up. As a person prior to this I never liked Joe anyway and believe many comments he made in the past were suspect to say the least so to me this just adds fire to my dislike for him to begin with. Anyway, we will never know the truth with his passing and probably never would have anyways, we will only know what we believe is true.

Something I find funny is you point on 3 charges that were dropped, how about the other 45? Apparently there was enough there to convict him of those so to say Joe didnt know anything is kind of suspect. I know things about my coworkers of only 2 years that I shouldn't or careless to know, working with someone of so many years I find it hard to think Joe is completely innocent in a cover up
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Re: Interesting tidbits about PSU/Sandusky/Freeh

not defending anyone here ,but, if the DA didn't file charges in 98. who else would joe have gone to the president of the united states. it was reported and investigated. no charges were made

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Absolutely. Why was it Joe's fault that no charges were brought up? Like I said before, the case was investigated by trained professionals. Joe was a trained professional in the field of football, not indentifying a pedifile.

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Something I find funny is you point on 3 charges that were dropped, how about the other 45? Apparently there was enough there to convict him of those so to say Joe didnt know anything is kind of suspect. I know things about my coworkers of only 2 years that I shouldn't or careless to know, working with someone of so many years I find it hard to think Joe is completely innocent in a cover up
Again, use the Freeh Report and connect the dots. Joe was only told of Victim 2 and 8. The other victims were never brought to Joe's attention. The Freeh Report implys that. Of course it was not going to say that because the whole point for the report was to place blame on those other than the Board of Trustees.

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For crying out loud, Get over it. NCAA ruled Penn State agreed with it. Penn State's reputation has taken a hit, Its how they move forward that will determine how they do in the future, But all this crying and sticking up for a program that failed in doing what is right is disgusting.
Time to man up and move on.

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