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concealed carry with thumb safety

I'm beginning to window shop. I want to get a small concealed carry gun for EDC. I won't be purchasing until after the new year, but i like to read reviews online, go to stores and handle, etc. I have a personal like for thumb safetys, example taurus or beretta where if the safety is up-its safe, safety down or flat its ready to fire-you click it down with your thumb, and safety towards the ground returns hammer without firing. Is there a reliable, small concealed carry gun out there that has this option. I would like to stick with the 9mm caliber and want to stay under $800 out the door. But I want something reliable, small enough that I will actually EDC, and has this type of safety if possible. I have seen that S&W makes a M&P 9 compact that you can get a safety on, does anyone own one and does it work like the above mentioned safety? I appreciate all info, feedback and positive suggestions?

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Re: concealed carry with thumb safety

I wonder if that is what my 9x18 mm Makarov has. If it does, it is perfectly safe.

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Re: concealed carry with thumb safety

yeah octagon that's what it has, I have one. I actually carry it alot, however I wanted to get something in plain 9mm and I don't like the magazine release on my makarov, though overall the gun is so heavily built it takes a licking and keeps on ticking so to speak, quality russian craftsmanship.

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Re: concealed carry with thumb safety

Beretta's safety is up to fire and down for safe.

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Steve any particular concealed carry models you recommend? I have owned Beretta's but only the full size .40. Good gun but I want a small 9mm for EDC.

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Re: concealed carry with thumb safety

I was at the local gun store today to pick up some scope rings for my rifle. While there I looked over there selection. I didn't like the compact ruger. The S&W M&P 9c was there it felt kind of heavy for compact, I liked the gun but if I eventually buy one I'll probably just get the full size. I also looked at a Sig Ithink the model was 938, it was a 3 inch 9mm, didn't have the kind of safety I wanted but close. It was kind of like a mini-1911 so you would have to carry cocked and locked. Couldn't find any compact's with the safety that pushes down and decocks like a makarov or a beretta, wondering if anyone makes one? If not might have to go with the Sig, never owned one any feedback on those?

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Re: concealed carry with thumb safety

If you are looking for a pistol to carry for personal protection there are some facts you need to consider.
Most modern double action pistol manufacturers, that manufacture a pistol that has what you call a safety, refer to it as a decocking lever. It's main function is to drop the hammer safely while a round still remains in the chamber.
Many have internal safeties that don't allow them to discharge unless the trigger is pulled through it's full cycle.
Simply put, with the hammer down, they are as safe to carry with the safety off as a double action revolver.
If you intend to carry a semi-automatic pistol with the safety/decocking lever engaged, you need to train extensively in the process needed to fire the pistol.
It's generally recognized that this takes a minimum of 1000 repetitions to ensure that you will react properly when your life depends on it.

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Re: concealed carry with thumb safety

I believe what you are reffering to as the decocking lever is the type of safety I would like to find on a small concealable 9mm. My makarov works that way if the safety is all the way up your on safe, down and level with the barrel its on fire, press it down one more time and it decocks the gun without firing. I would like to find a gun in regular 9mm with this option.

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Re: concealed carry with thumb safety

You definitely should carry what your comfortable with.
I personally wouldn't recommend that type of safety/decocking lever. I am aware of too many documented case where the safety was never disengaged when the weapon was needed for self defense to recommend carrying with the safety engaged.

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Re: concealed carry with thumb safety

Check out the Kahr PM9.
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