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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 08-07-2012, 08:47 PM Thread Starter
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ID and value on 12 ga O/U

12 ga O/U fixed choke. Single selective trigger. Has coined reciever. nice wood stocks. cut checkering. (not pressed like on 870 epress etc).

Only markings on the gun is Armi Gnali Acciaio Breda B4 Made in Italy.

The bbls are clean with some nice scroll work. Looks to be 2 3/4 shells. Single bead on top od vent rib bbl.

I looking for info and price thanks guys/gals this one has me stumped.

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post #2 of 5 (permalink) Old 08-07-2012, 09:03 PM
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Re: ID and value on 12 ga O/U

The Acciaio Breda simply means "Breda Steel". Societa' Ernesto Breda was a large steel making concern, having Blast Furnaces, Rolling Mills, etc; similar to Vickers or Krupp, they also made Artillery, Locomotives,Rolling stock, heavy machinery, and Small Arms (mostly Machine Guns and small machine cannon). Their steel was also supplied to other Italian Gunmakers for use in barrels,receivers and parts. Just as "Kruppstahl" was a German mark of quality steel in gunbarrels for the civilian market, "Acciaio Breda" had the same significance in Italian Sporting Guns. The exact type of steel is "B-4", --- chrome-steel barrels ("canone chrome").

The Gun itself was made by "Fabbrica Nazionale D'Armi, SRL" or translated, "National Arms Factory,(private company)" a common usage name for a group of small gunmakers acting as a joint venture under a private corporate structure. Most shotguns out of Italy have always been made by small firms or individuals; and the actual name on the gun as maker sometimes is but an "assembler", as the individual components may be made by several suppliers. Only the larger companies such as Beretta, Pedrazzini, etc, have large, integrated factories making all components and assembling them under "the one roof" by skilled gunmakers. In the Industrial Register of Gardone Val Trompia (home of Beretta etc) there are 106 ( 2005 count)individual gunmaking concerns, most of them family or one-man operations




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Re: ID and value on 12 ga O/U

thanks john I found that on Trapshooters also. I am looking for more recent info, value.

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Re: ID and value on 12 ga O/U

Have you ever shot one of these guns?

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Nope, there is a valley in Italy where most of the Itallian guns are made, the big names and the lessor known names. The lessor known are better known in Europe than the US.




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