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Carry permit

I often hear it refered to as a concelled Carry permit. Mine says LTCF. I usually open carry while hunting and fishing. Am I missing something.

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Re: Carry permit

It is a license to carry a firearm - concealed
PA is an open carry state so you need a license to carry it concealed. Just wording - nothing different

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They gave you a "Light Tactical" permit which means they can send you to Iraq at anytime.
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Re: Carry permit

Permit and license mean the same thing in the dictionary and in law.

PA's law doesn't give a Proper Name to our license/permit. It simply refers to it as a license, and in some passages as a permit.

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Nope, in the firearms act the section that deals with carrying firearms is titled firearms not to be carried without a <span style="font-weight: bold">license</span>. The License to carry is a license. The Sportsmans permit is a permit and they don't mean the same thing and what is allowed under each is different. When you are dealing with a law what the dictionary says does not always apply and when the court uses a dictionary it is Blacks Law Dictionary. Below is sec 6106 of the uniform firearms act, you will see license and permit used for different documents involved to carry a firearm.

6106. Firearms not to be carried without a license.
a.Offense defined. -- 1.Except as provided in paragraph (2), any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree.
2.A person who is otherwise eligible to possess a valid license under this chapter but carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license and has not committed any other criminal violation commits a misdemeanor of the first degree.

b.Exceptions.--The provisions of subsection (a) shall not apply to: 1.Constables, sheriffs, prison or jail wardens, or their deputies, policemen of this Commonwealth or its political subdivisions, or other law-enforcement officers.
2.Members of the army, navy, marine corps, air force or coast guard of the United States or of the National Guard or organized reserves when on duty.
3.The regularly enrolled members of any organization duly organized to purchase or receive such firearms from the United States or from this Commonwealth.
4.Any persons engaged in target shooting with a firearm, if such persons are at or are going to or from their places of assembly or target practice and if, while going to or from their places of assembly or target practice, the firearm is not loaded.
5.Officers or employees of the United States duly authorized to carry a concealed firearm.
6.Agents, messengers and other employees of common carriers, banks, or business firms, whose duties require them to protect moneys, valuables and other property in the discharge of such duties.
7.Any person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of any such person, having in his possession, using or carrying a firearm in the usual or ordinary course of such business.
8.Any person while carrying a firearm which is not loaded and is in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase to his home or place of business, or to a place of repair, sale or appraisal or back to his home or place of business, or in moving from one place of abode or business to another or from his home to a vacation or recreational home or dwelling or back, or to recover stolen property under section 6111.1(b)(4) (relating to Pennsylvania State Police), or to a place of instruction intended to teach the safe handling, use or maintenance of firearms or back or to a location to which the person has been directed to relinquish firearms under 23 Pa.C.S. 6108 (relating to relief) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm or to a licensed dealer's place of business for relinquishment pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S. 6108.2 (relating to relinquishment for consignment sale, lawful transfer or safekeeping) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm or to a location for safekeeping pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S. 6108.3 (relating to relinquishment to third party for safekeeping) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm.
9.Persons licensed to hunt, take furbearers or fish in this Commonwealth, if such persons are actually hunting, taking furbearers or fishing as permitted by such license, or are going to the places where they desire to hunt, take furbearers or fish or returning from such places.
10.Persons training dogs, if such persons are actually training dogs during the regular training season.
11.Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle, which person possesses a valid and lawfully issued license for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the United States or any other state.
12.A person who has a lawfully issued license to carry a firearm pursuant to section 6109 (relating to licenses) and that said license expired within six months prior to the date of arrest and that the individual is otherwise eligible for renewal of the license.
13.Any person who is otherwise eligible to possess a firearm under this chapter and who is operating a motor vehicle which is registered in the person's name or the name of a spouse or parent and which contains a firearm for which a valid license has been issued pursuant to section 6109 to the spouse or parent owning the firearm.
14.A person lawfully engaged in the interstate transportation of a firearm as defined under 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(3) (relating to definitions) in compliance with 18 U.S.C. 926A (relating to interstate transportation of firearms).
15.Any person who possesses a valid and lawfully issued license or permit to carry a firearm which has been issued under the laws of another state, regardless of whether a reciprocity agreement exists between the Commonwealth and the state under section 6109(k), provided: i.The state provides a reciprocal privilege for individuals licensed to carry firearms under section 6109.
ii.The Attorney General has determined that the firearm laws of the state are similar to the firearm laws of this Commonwealth.


c.Sportsman's firearm permit. -- 1.Before any exception shall be granted under paragraph (b)(9) or (10) of this section to any person 18 years of age or older licensed to hunt, trap or fish or who has been issued a permit relating to hunting dogs, such person shall, at the time of securing his hunting, furtaking or fishing license or any time after such license has been issued, secure a sportsman's firearm permit from the county treasurer. The sportsman's firearm permit shall be issued immediately and be valid throughout this Commonwealth for a period of five years from the date of issue for any legal firearm, when carried in conjunction with a valid hunting, furtaking or fishing license or permit relating to hunting dogs. The sportsman's firearm permit shall be in triplicate on a form to be furnished by the Pennsylvania State






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Re: Carry permit

John S,
Do you need a Sportsmans firearm permit to hunt with a handgun if you have a LTCF?
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I don't think so. You would need a hunting license though.

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No sir, you do not.




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Re: Carry permit

Thank you that is what I thought but everyone kept telling me I did. I carry my 41 mag on my hip the last couple of years. Thanks again Sir.
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Re: Carry permit

the sportsmans permit allows you to carry concealed while hunting, fishing etc and carry in a vehicle on the way to hunting fishing etc. if you want to carry concealed while hunting, you might as well just get a ltcf in all honesty.

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