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Question about carry a handgun hunting

I bought a ruger super blackhawk a month ago. I plan on hunting with it during rifle season and I need to buy a holster. The dealer that I bought it from told me they recommend a holster that will allow me to carry the gun on my chest so if I need to protect it while walking I can cover it with my jacket. Now the question is, Im only 19 and have a hunting permit, I can't legally concealed carry. Legally would I be able to have it covered with my jacket/vest at all?
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yes provided you have a Sportsman Firearms Permit...

<span style="font-weight: bold">6106. Firearms not to be carried without a license.</span>
(a) Offense defined.--
(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), any person who
carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a
firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place
of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and
lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony
of the third degree.
(2) A person who is otherwise eligible to possess a
valid license under this chapter but carries a firearm in any
vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or
about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place
of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license and
has not committed any other criminal violation commits a
misdemeanor of the first degree.
<span style="font-weight: bold"> (b) Exceptions.--The provisions of subsection (a) shall not
apply to:</span>
(1) Constables, sheriffs, prison or jail wardens, or
their deputies, policemen of this Commonwealth or its
political subdivisions, or other law-enforcement officers.
(2) Members of the army, navy, marine corps, air force
or coast guard of the United States or of the National Guard
or organized reserves when on duty.
(3) The regularly enrolled members of any organization
duly organized to purchase or receive such firearms from the
United States or from this Commonwealth.
(4) Any persons engaged in target shooting with a
firearm, if such persons are at or are going to or from their
places of assembly or target practice and if, while going to
or from their places of assembly or target practice, the
firearm is not loaded.
(5) Officers or employees of the United States duly
authorized to carry a concealed firearm.
(6) Agents, messengers and other employees of common
carriers, banks, or business firms, whose duties require them
to protect moneys, valuables and other property in the
discharge of such duties.
(7) Any person engaged in the business of manufacturing,
repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or
representative of any such person, having in his possession,
using or carrying a firearm in the usual or ordinary course
of such business.
(8) Any person while carrying a firearm which is not
loaded and is in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase
to his home or place of business, or to a place of repair,
sale or appraisal or back to his home or place of business,
or in moving from one place of abode or business to another
or from his home to a vacation or recreational home or
dwelling or back, or to recover stolen property under section
6111.1(b)(4) (relating to Pennsylvania State Police), or to a
place of instruction intended to teach the safe handling, use
or maintenance of firearms or back or to a location to which
the person has been directed to relinquish firearms under 23
Pa.C.S. § 6108 (relating to relief) or back upon return of
the relinquished firearm or to a licensed dealer's place of
business for relinquishment pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108.2
(relating to relinquishment for consignment sale, lawful
transfer or safekeeping) or back upon return of the
relinquished firearm or to a location for safekeeping
pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108.3 (relating to relinquishment
to third party for safekeeping) or back upon return of the
relinquished firearm.
<span style="font-weight: bold"> (9) Persons licensed to hunt, take furbearers or fish in
this Commonwealth, if such persons are actually hunting,
taking furbearers or fishing as permitted by such license, or
are going to the places where they desire to hunt, take
furbearers or fish or returning from such places.</span>
(10) Persons training dogs, if such persons are actually
training dogs during the regular training season.
(11) Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle,
which person possesses a valid and lawfully issued license
for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the
United States or any other state.
(12) A person who has a lawfully issued license to carry
a firearm pursuant to section 6109 (relating to licenses) and
that said license expired within six months prior to the date
of arrest and that the individual is otherwise eligible for
renewal of the license.
(13) Any person who is otherwise eligible to possess a
firearm under this chapter and who is operating a motor
vehicle which is registered in the person's name or the name
of a spouse or parent and which contains a firearm for which
a valid license has been issued pursuant to section 6109 to
the spouse or parent owning the firearm.
(14) A person lawfully engaged in the interstate
transportation of a firearm as defined under 18 U.S.C. §
921(a)(3) (relating to definitions) in compliance with 18
U.S.C. § 926A (relating to interstate transportation of
firearms).
(15) Any person who possesses a valid and lawfully
issued license or permit to carry a firearm which has been
issued under the laws of another state, regardless of whether
a reciprocity agreement exists between the Commonwealth and
the state under section 6109(k), provided:
(i) The state provides a reciprocal privilege for
individuals licensed to carry firearms under section
6109.
(ii) The Attorney General has determined that the
firearm laws of the state are similar to the firearm laws
of this Commonwealth.
(16) Any person holding a license in accordance with
section 6109(f)(3).
<span style="font-weight: bold"> (c) Sportsman's firearm permit.--
(1) Before any exception shall be granted under
paragraph (b)(9) or (10) of this section to any person 18
years of age or older licensed to hunt, trap or fish or who
has been issued a permit relating to hunting dogs, such
person shall, at the time of securing his hunting, furtaking
or fishing license or any time after such license has been
issued, secure a sportsman's firearm permit from the county
treasurer. The sportsman's firearm permit shall be issued
immediately and be valid throughout this Commonwealth for a
period of five years from the date of issue for any legal
firearm, when carried in conjunction with a valid hunting,
furtaking or fishing license or permit relating to hunting
dogs. The sportsman's firearm permit shall be in triplicate
on a form to be furnished by the Pennsylvania State Police.
The original permit shall be delivered to the person, and the
first copy thereof, within seven days, shall be forwarded to
the Commissioner of the Pennsylvania State Police by the
county treasurer. The second copy shall be retained by the
county treasurer for a period of two years from the date of
expiration. The county treasurer shall be entitled to collect
a fee of not more than $6 for each such permit issued, which
shall include the cost of any official form. The Pennsylvania
State Police may recover from the county treasurer the cost
of any such form, but may not charge more than $1 for each
official permit form furnished to the county treasurer.</span>
(2) Any


NOTE: The firearm must be unloaded when in the vehicle, just like any other hunting firearm.

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Re: Question about carry a handgun hunting

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I bought a ruger super blackhawk a month ago. I plan on hunting with it during rifle season and I need to buy a holster. The dealer that I bought it from told me they recommend a holster that will allow me to carry the gun on my chest so if I need to protect it while walking I can cover it with my jacket. Now the question is, Im only 19 and have a hunting permit, I can't legally concealed carry. Legally would I be able to have it covered with my jacket/vest at all?
Are you the fellow I had a PM chat with about buying my Redhawk? Funny, since you can't really buy a handgun in PA until you're 21............how did you come by that gun??

Like the previous poster said, you should be fine having it covered by your overcoat while in the field. And you can cover it easily with the average hunting jacket even with belt carry as most hunting overcoats go below the belt.

Might I recommend:

Galco SAO Outdoorsman

It can be worn strong side or cross draw and it covers the trigger and retains the hammer. Cross draw is great for sitting in tree stands and when your carrying a rifle in your strong hand as it keeps the two from banging together while walking.

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Re: Question about carry a handgun hunting

Hmmm, claiming to be 19 and saying you "bought" a handgun in PA, from a dealer no less?

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Re: Question about carry a handgun hunting

My dad handed them the money and signed all of the paperwork and it is under his name. So "technically" I didn't buy it. However I will be the one hunting with it. I guess I didn't really think who technically bought it had much to do with the question. Sorry for the confusion
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My dad handed them the money and signed all of the paperwork and it is under his name. So "technically" I didn't buy it. However I will be the one hunting with it. I guess I didn't really think who technically bought it had much to do with the question. Sorry for the confusion
You know, I was just busting your chops. Best of luck this season. Post pics if you score.

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Yeah I was just making it clear so people don't actually raise a fuss. Thanks a lot. Good luck hunting to you too
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To the pansy who needs to hide behind fake emails

"[email protected] Today at 9:33 AM
To: [email protected]
"Are you the fellow I had a PM chat with about buying my Redhawk?" Not only a know it all PIA. But dealing with an under 21 for a handgun. WOW !!!!!"

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At least I don't hide behind anonymous emails and fake screen names. Yes, pjpaden and I discussed a Redhawk months ago. He made it clear he was in college and that, IF, the deal went through I would be dealing with his father.

Your such a putz......need I say more?!

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Just a point,,,

I do not think he can carry it under his coat, because a sportsmans permit gives him the right to carry the handgun, not the ability to CCW, you NEED a LCTF in PA to carry concealed. Basically with the sportsmans, he does NOT have the proper " a valid and lawfully issued license" to carry <span style="font-weight: bold">concealed</span>. Another thing, a person must be 21 in this state to get a LCTF.
I could be wrong, but I have never heard of a sportsmans permit being a LCTF for a underage person.

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Although it would seem to be a bit of a gray area. I believe the Sportsmans permit allows for an exemption to the concealed carry law, as long as the person is in the act of hunting or trapping (but not loaded within a vehicle).

It is similar in nature to sanctioned match exemptions for out of state handgun shooters. For example; I don't have a LTCF in New York State, but I can carry concealed during an IDPA match because it is an exemption to NYS carry law.

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