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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 08-17-2014, 01:01 PM Thread Starter
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snubby POI to the left

so ive been shooting my 642 a bit..at 7 yards i am holding tennis ball sized groups firing at a steady pace..10 yards it opens up a little bit more..need more practice farther than that lol...

at 7 and 10 yards my POI is to the left..7yds it is 2-3" left..10 yards probably 4-5" to the group centers..not a HUGE deal...but i am one that doesnt settle for "good enough" and the guy that wants to know WHY and how to correct it..


i dont have a ton of trigger time with a revolver at all..grew up shooting autos..


any possible suggestions? gotta be something with my grip or trigger finger i am assuming..ive tried playing with both and havent found that one thing works better than another...

oddly enough i found i am more accurate with a steady trigger pull opposed to indexing the cylinder and focusing on the last bit of trigger pull for the shot...i shoot Sig Sauers a fair bit and shoot DA well..

the pistol correction charts say trigger finger...ive tried the tip of my finger and tried everywhere clear back to the middle of my finger on the trigger...didnt seem to move my groups...


any thoughts??
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Re: snubby POI to the left

Im not an expert by any means, but i have noticed that alot of handgun shooters, myself included notice this "pulling" the gun one way or another.

Lefties usually pull to the right and righties pull to the left, it is in how you "roll" your wrist a little to the inside while pulling the trigger. Heavy trigger pulls make this worse, we do it with out even thinking about it.

Usually alot of practice and paying attention while you pull the trigger will help, its kinda a muscle memory thing. But i have found that once i get used to a particular handgun, sometimes when i pick up and shoot another, different trigger weight and feel, i will catch myself trying to pull to the inside again. Handguns are finiky to grip, how you manage the recoil ect, it takes lots of practice with everyone you own/shoot to stay proficient with them.

Hope this helps/makes sense, good luck.
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Re: snubby POI to the left

For me to shoot a revolver that has small grips like the 642 anywhere near decent, I have to use a high grip that puts my middle finger and ring finger a bit up on the grip and squeeze the trigger near the first joint on the trigger finger. That helps me shoot better with a two hand grip too because I can cradle my right hand better in my left hand. Switching to bigger grips like Hogues could help if you'd care to do that. I use them on a Ruger LCR. I also don't shoot +P ammo but use HydraShock 110 gr. 38's since it's such a light gun.

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Re: snubby POI to the left

Thanx guys!

Right now it wears the rubber grips...I want to try wood grips...might "sting" a little more..but if it helps it helps...I don't wanna goto anything thicker than what is on it though..defeats its purpose...


My vertical center is perfect..just gotta fix that horizontal a bit and practice more to shrink the farther shots...

In the end its not a worry...if I need that gun things gone bad and 10+ yards isn't going to be needed..

My grip is high like basdjs said...I'm thinking maybe my off hand has something to do with it? I shoot with a high thumb forward grip on my autos..might not be ideal for shooting the snubby..there just isn't enough there to properly shoot like that..which could explain my groups drifting left of center..I am used to my weak hand being able to do more than it is doing on the snubby and my strong hand is pushing the shots to the left due to that lack of support...

I will try that next session..try playing with my weak hand placement..
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Re: snubby POI to the left

Something else I thought about, but forgot to mention in the earlier post....the snubbies are so short and the sights are so small that it's hard to get a good consistent sight picture. I paint my sights white to help with that and since I've had retinal surgery in both eyes, I have a Lasermax sight on the LCRX. What a difference it makes and it adds virtually no weight or bulk to the gun.

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Re: snubby POI to the left

Try dry firing and closely watch the front site and its relation to the rear notch. The front site will tell you if you're pushing or pulling the trigger one way or the other.
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Re: snubby POI to the left

I don't know but it sounds like you hit the (right) chest for a good lung shot. What more can you expect from a snubby.
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Re: snubby POI to the left

thanx guys!



dry firing i dont notice the sights moving...im big on dry firing...saves ammo and its effective practice! i do it a lot...and know its benefits..


im going to shoot this weekend...away for work 2 weeks at a time so its tough to get time...im going to see if my dad has different grips laying around to see how that changes things too...right now it wears the factory rubber grips..

will also play with my own hand grip and such...


for what it is (a snubby) i am content with how it shoots..but id like to get better..and boost my confidence and extend my range a little more if possible..
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Re: snubby POI to the left

Dad dug me up a full sized grip for the J frame...no small wooden ones...will have to order a cheap set to try out..the full sized set is nice but defeats the guns purpose..will shoot a little with them just to see how they do..

Heading out later to shoot..ammo is finally easier to find!
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Re: snubby POI to the left

shot a little bit with the full sized grip this evening...

shot MUCH better...as expected...i did adjust my grip some too...and my trigger pull...i should be able to keep both on the small grip...will hit it again and see if my POI is still good with the small grips on...

i took my trigger finger back to a normal trigger pull with the tip of my finger and learned to pull it back "properly" i think that may have been my issue..too much trigger finger and not pulling it straight back..the trigger being closer to the grip than im used to had me breaking my wrist i think...

and i got a little more support out of my weak hand with the adjusted hold..


i forsee a full sized wheel gun in my future..i REALLY enjoy shooting it...and id LOVE to have a 4" or so 357 or 44 to carry deer hunting...a gun i could carry on my hip and use while sitting when a close shot comes up..ive shot a small pile of deer and many of them were within 30 yards...i think definitely possible with open sights and single action with some practice..
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