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Fall Question

I plan on heading up to camp over the grouse opener and will have Sunday to fish. Keeping in mind I'm a complete novice, what would be a no frills, simple pattern. Hare's ear? Copper Johns, etc? I don't have a very large supply of flies as of yet.

I don't have ducks. I don't have rows. I have squirrels. And they're drunk.
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Re: Fall Question

Hares ear, pheasant tail, for dries try size 18/20 BWO or caddis, if they seem to be taking a midge in the film cut the tail off the BWO.. At this time of year all the flies are going to be pretty small.
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Thanks. Should I fish smaller nymphs as well?

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Re: Fall Question

Yes, size 14 isn't too big but have a 16or 18 dropped off of it. The reason I say a 14 is the weight of it helps get your smaller lighter fly down where it needs to be.

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Re: Fall Question

is this a native/wild trout stream or a stocked stream.. if it is stocked then anything you throw underwater will work. hares ear, pheasant tail, prince nymph, flashback pheasant tail, green weenie, copper john, wooly bugger..

if its a wild trout stream stay on top water and use a royal wulff size 12 or 14..

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Re: Fall Question

Fishing a dropper is all new to me (I've only flyfished a handful of times) How far should I place the two apart? If I use a bead head on the top then I shouldn't use one on the bottom? Like I said, I'm a complete rookie at this. I do know I would have a very difficult time fishing a small dry fly. I tried that this year and could never see it.

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Re: Fall Question

I like putting a beadhead nymph on first then drop an emerger about 12-16 inches below it.. simulated a hatch rising off the bottom.. to each their own.. right now fish are hungry and it really does not matter much on the smaller streams

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Re: Fall Question

u can try beetles and grasshoppers also if your wanting to try something easy on top, also try a sunken ant....caddis larva will work good in larger size but like said before go small, most of the nymphs are still in the beginning of their growing cycle so there will be more small ones then larger ones...you can also use some midges they will work well...where is your camp located
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I'm on the Elk/Forest line between Marienville and Kane. I have easy access to Spring Creek, Tionesta and its branches, Salmon, Blue Jay, Millstone, the Clarion and Allegheny rivers, as well as some smaller lesser known streams all within a half hour or so from my camp. I mainly fish Spring creek because the section near my camp gets stocked by both the fish commssion and a local sportsman's club. Even an ameature like me can catch trout on a fly there.

I have a few beetles and grasshoppers but will most likely stick to the nymphs. I have a good supply of hares ear and pheasant both beaded and non beaded.

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sounds like all you need are waders a vehicle, two able hands and a rod.. get after it!

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