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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-21-2014, 11:28 PM Thread Starter
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Go to carp flies

Finally got my first fly rod to try to figure everything out. Now I need to stack up on some flies. For the time being ill mostly be targeting carp. Was curious whats everyone's go to flies they use for carp. New to all this so please dumb it down for me if you will. Also having trouble figuring out leaders and tippets can some one explain to me. Guy at cabelas told me 4x 9ft leader and 12 inches of 4x tippet will work fine but reading I don't think it will do. My leaders also look like they go thick to thin can someone explain that also. Thanks for any advice
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-21-2014, 11:39 PM
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Re: Go to carp flies

Ur leader is tapered, it helps with the turn over of flies....4x is about 7lbs depends on how big of carp u are chasing u should be fine, but maybe cut it back to a 3x leader....crawfish patterns, wooly buggers and some shrimp will work...they will also work thw surface sometimes
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Re: Go to carp flies

Alright cool I picked up a basic kinda big crayfish pattern from cabelas also black wooly buggers. How would I know where to cut the leader? So let's say I buy a normal leader lets say 2x would I buy 2x tippet so I'm not cutting the leader every time I change flies?
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Re: Go to carp flies

Yes u can add tippet to it, use a surgeon or blood knot...u just get a feel for when u need to add tippet to ur leader
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Re: Go to carp flies

Of late I have been using a perfection loop on my leader and one on my piece of tippet. Makes changing tippet faster, and also less likelihood of losing pieces of the tapered leader, meaning fewer changes of tapered leader as well. The breaking strength is in the 85 - 90% range when I tie these knots and I have yet to have a fish break one off in the water since I started using them this year. The biggest fish I caught this way was a 15" wild brown trout on a 5x tapered leader and about 18" of 5x tippet down to a sulphur dun.

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Re: Go to carp flies

I use black wooly bugger with silver bead head for carp. Sometimes smaller pheasant tail nymphs.
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Re: Go to carp flies

Thanks for all the advice. I had to tie the leader to the fly line since there was no loop so I used the nail knot. Then I tied 12inches of tippet to the leader also using nail knot.
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Re: Go to carp flies

Okay so I went back and redid some stuff. I took some 50lb power pro braid tied it to my fly line with a nail knot then made a perfection loop to use the loop on the leader. I got the idea from google anyone see it being wrong or bad idea??
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Re: Go to carp flies

Nope. I do this as well. I used an old tapered leader and attached the butt section to the fly line with a nail knot. I then cut off most of the old leader and did exactly what you did, tied a perfection loop. Works great. FWIW I have also tied the perfection loop right into my fly line at times too and I think it works fine. You just have to pay attention to whether your fly line is out of the rod tip or not because the line won't shoot very well with a loop in the end if it is inside the eye at all.

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Re: Go to carp flies

get some uv knot sense or wader repair (im sure other glue will work also) and apply some to ur knots, it will beable to glide through your eyes and tip better
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